Re:‘We’re Almost Extinct’: China’s Investigative Journalists...
by 0815test on Saturday July 13, 2019 @02:32AM
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The argument for capitalism is that it's raising literally billions of people out of extreme poverty - Zizek is clueless if he doesn't get this basic point. If you're a random poor person from China (especially the Chinese interior - urban and coastal areas have their own reasons to distrust too much democracy however), you don't care about democracy, period - capitalism (as in, good business) is your first priority, and basic liberal values (even Xi is focusing on things like fighting corruption and opportunistic behavior - that's the hidden dynamics behind the "social score system" controversy!) come second.
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Re:‘We’re Almost Extinct’: China’s Investigative Journalists...
by benjaminbrodie on Saturday July 13, 2019 @02:57AM
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At the end of the day people everywhere just want to live meaningful, fulfilling lives. Having the right to vote has no essential bearing on meaning. Most Americans try every means available to get out of jury duty, and last time I checked, turnout rates for NY and SF are below ten percent. If these sacred democratic rights were really so personally valuable to people, how come so many of them don't even bother to exercise them?
Re:‘We’re Almost Extinct’: China’s Investigative Journalists...
by kabwj on Saturday July 13, 2019 @05:39AM
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People prefer happiness to freedom. I don’t think that democracy is vital to the wellness of a society. It’s just that until now all autocratic societies were ruled by shitheads and they inevitably collapsed. Now we’re seeing an autocratic society that is working fine because it’s being led by intelligent, not-too-selfish people. This is a breath of fresh air since in my opinion democracy is well past its heyday and we have to explore new options.
Re:‘We’re Almost Extinct’: China’s Investigative Journalists...
by delian66 on Saturday July 13, 2019 @05:47AM
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See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynastic_cycle
It is just a matter of time for the corruption to set in again.
Re:‘We’re Almost Extinct’: China’s Investigative Journalists...
by 0815test on Saturday July 13, 2019 @07:44AM
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> I don’t think that democracy is vital to the wellness of a society.
Well, it depends. If you're well above the typical middle-income country, I think you'd still benefit from more democracy. Democratic countries tend to benefit from increased openness, which is vital to creating wealth and avoiding disruptions of all sorts when you're at the forefront of economic development - and we see this even in historical times where non-democratic polities were far more common.
Re:‘We’re Almost Extinct’: China’s Investigative Journalists...
by tarsinge on Saturday July 13, 2019 @06:29AM
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> It’s just that until now all autocratic societies were ruled by shitheads
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_IX_of_France#Veneration_...