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Re:Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates o... by Jorsiem on Friday July 12, 2019 @08:31PM (#20425759)
How do you have a ATM thats not networked?
Re:Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates o... by throwaway3491 on Friday July 12, 2019 @09:17PM (#20425904)
Same user (sorry I guess I didn't enter my password carefully as I can't log in.)

Well I mean they're not exactly on the Internet with an IP address and no firewall, are they? (Or they would have been compromised already.)

Whatever it is, it must be separated off as an "insecure enclave".

So that's why I'm wondering about this technique. You don't just miss out on security updates, you miss performance and architecture improvements, too, if you stop upgrading.

But can that be the path toward 100% uptime? Known bad and out of date configurations, carefully maintained in a brittle known state?

Re:Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates o... by Operyl on Saturday July 13, 2019 @12:03AM (#20426430)
Secure .. enclave? I'm sorry but I think you're throwing buzzwords around hoping to hit a homerun here.
Re:Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates o... by nitrogen on Saturday July 13, 2019 @03:08AM (#20426912)
No, it's a fair question. The word "enclave" has a general meaning in English as a state surrounded entirely by another, or metaphorically a zone with some degree of isolation from its surroundings.

So the legit question is, can insecure systems (e.g. ancient mainframes) be wrapped by a security layer (WAF, etc.) to get better uptime than patching an exposed system?

Re:Root cause analysis: significantly elevated error rates o... by throwaway3491 on Saturday July 13, 2019 @03:44AM (#20426999)
yes, thank you.