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Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by blunte on Thursday July 11, 2019 @10:26AM (#20411723)
The author lets their bias against veganism show with statements like this:

"Further, a significant amount of willpower is required to resist the frequent sugar cravings, which often leads to food (and self) obsessions (very common in fruitarianism)."

Did I miss the study where it was found that fruitarians are often self-obsessed? I would venture a guess that most _people_ are self-obsessed, regardless of their diet.

Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by skohan on Thursday July 11, 2019 @10:35AM (#20411802)
I have a hard time believing that fruititarianism could be healthy in any way. It seems like getting almost all of your energy from fructose and hardly any fat and protein (two of the 3 core macronutrients) could not possibly work. It makes me think of an article I read in the past 6 months about how zoo animals are having metabolic damage because the fruit we grow commercially is so high in sugar it's no longer healthy.

And this is purely anecdotal, but I watched a youtube video about a guy who went raw fruititarian for a few months, and his before and after photos were not inspiring. He lost some weight, but his skin and hair seemed fragile, and he seemed kind of lethargic and spacey in his after video.

Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by blunte on Thursday July 11, 2019 @10:39AM (#20411830)
Oh I don't doubt that fruitarianism is a less than optimal diet, but I don't know that it's fair to claim that fruitarians are generally self-obsessed (at least compared to practioners of other diets and fitness regimes).
Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by monocasa on Thursday July 11, 2019 @10:41AM (#20411848)
It's not that it's "less than optimal", it kills you. It's what killed Steve Jobs for instance.
Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by yakovdk on Thursday July 11, 2019 @11:17AM (#20412173)
I was going to reply and complain that it was pancreatic cancer. But after fact-checking a bit, I see that fruits and fruit juices seem to have been linked to pancreatic cancer[1], and there may be some truth in your claim. TIL.

[1] https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/86/5/1495/4754408

Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by meerita on Friday July 12, 2019 @06:02AM (#20419505)
Exactly. Eating only sugar and some Vitamin C and some fiber you cannot digest is not a good diet. Most of the fruitarians you see on Internet are aging and dropping like flies. The lack of proper macronutrients drive them crazy, since their brain cannot function. Just do a search on Youtube "I'm ex vegan" you will hear the stories of the people who escaped different types of veganism, specially the fruitarian one.
Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by blunte on Thursday July 11, 2019 @02:04PM (#20413840)
Well by definition, something that kills you is less than optimal (unless death is your goal).
Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by monocasa on Thursday July 11, 2019 @05:32PM (#20416071)
Less than optimal has the connotation of being sufficient, but requiring more resources than strictly necessary.
Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by blunte on Thursday July 11, 2019 @11:10PM (#20417780)
My original post was about the author's bias, not about fruitarianism. My "less than optimal" comment was a gentle, intentionally non-confrontational effort to return the focus on bias rather than the specific diet. Clearly my effort failed.
Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by a_random_name on Thursday July 11, 2019 @11:07AM (#20412070)
That and not using proven treatments for cancer.
Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by meerita on Friday July 12, 2019 @06:00AM (#20419499)
is less than optimal, it is not optimal at all.
Re:The Calorie Paradox of Raw Veganism (1999) by glonq on Thursday July 11, 2019 @10:39AM (#20411828)
...and shows bias by using the term "the party line" so frequently.