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Re:A “bike platform” that temporarily swaps one car parking ... by Symbiote on Thursday July 11, 2019 @05:55AM (#20410348)
> When they overtake a standing queue, Bicyclists, from the point of view of drivers, are acting against the common interest of smoothly flowing traffic for their own gain and taking advantage of a temporary situation to screw up the natural order of faster vehicles at the front of the line and slower ones at the back.

Now compare that behaviour with motorists, who are acting against the common interest of society and the environment by using a 2 tonne metal box to move around, leaving air and noise pollution, death, destruction and congestion in their wake.

I realize you're only explaining the behaviours, but we've built a society that chooses convenience at the cost of over a million road deaths per year, envelops cities in smog, and is responsible for a huge chunk of CO₂ emissions.

Re:A “bike platform” that temporarily swaps one car parking ... by kd5bjo on Thursday July 11, 2019 @06:24AM (#20410447)
So, queue jumping is a moral act as long as the people you’re jumping in front of are bad people? Even if so, they’re most of the population and making someone angry is rarely a good tactic to convince them to help you.

It’s possible to disagree with everything someone stands for and still treat them with civility. Many people on both sides of this debate that are concerned primarily with their own convenience, and this should be a rational policy discussion instead of a holy war.

Re:A “bike platform” that temporarily swaps one car parking ... by lmm on Thursday July 11, 2019 @10:14AM (#20411633)
> So, queue jumping is a moral act as long as the people you’re jumping in front of are bad people?

I see it as more like a "10 items or less" queue: if you're taking up less (checkout/road) space then you get to go in a shorter queue that moves faster than the queues of the people who are taking up more space. That's fair, isn't it?

Re:A “bike platform” that temporarily swaps one car parking ... by kd5bjo on Thursday July 11, 2019 @10:55AM (#20411970)
That would be fair, if the infrastructure reflected that. It doesn’t, however: often there’s only one lane downstream from the traffic light that can’t be effectively shared, so there’s only one resource to queue for. That’s why we should get some proper bicycle infrastructure built already, but bicyclists angering drivers with their behavior isn’t going to help.
Re:A “bike platform” that temporarily swaps one car parking ... by lmm on Thursday July 11, 2019 @11:16AM (#20412163)
In my experience whether there's a painted bicycle lane or not makes little difference to how angry drivers get about it. Filtering past them is still the safest course of action either way; I'm not going to compromise that for the sake of their unreasonable anger.