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Re:Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows by anbop on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @03:03PM (#20405270)
The mega scale influencers like the Kardashian family definitely influence, and have created billion-dollar brands like Kylie Cosmetics.

The regular level influencers are complete nonentities. I remember a story here a while back where an "influencer" with 2 million "followers" couldn't sell 36 T-shirts.

Re:Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows by dylz on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @03:14PM (#20405382)
I do not use social media myself, but I saw that story as it was posted here. I get the feeling that there was some bad behaviour in that particular case (while Kardashian at least has some humans).

The t-shirt account can't get past 200 comments with 2.6 million followers? Sub-0.001% engagement screams purchased followers - you typically get more than that in spam comments or shoutout-begging alone most of the time I've seen if they are humans...

I am also inclined to believe this even more so due to scrolling through the follower list for under a minute, based off usernames. Another thing is that while scrolling through, some hypermajority appear to be either India, Middle Eastern, or CIS countries, while she has never written a description in any of those - possibly the vendor was also difficult to order from or ship outside of the US or her home country otherwise.

Re:Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows by ChainOfFools on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @04:46PM (#20406351)
how long before AI powered "engagement" bot nets get good enough to pass the extremely low Turing test bar required of IG follower comments?

I suspect AI wouldn't even be needed, just harvest real comments from existing high engage feeds and dump them with minor word swaps on to low engage feeds. this alone would probably take a couple years for countermeasures to respond to, assuming there is even an incentive basis to respond at all.

Re:Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows by jacksproit on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @09:19PM (#20408284)
2 years ago, at least
Re:Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows by dylz on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @06:50PM (#20407400)
why do you need AI? just end your sentence with #f4f #followback
Re:Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows by puranjay on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @03:09PM (#20405328)
That story needs a * because you don't know how good the t shirts were or if they were targeted to their audience.
Re:Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows by buboard on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @03:11PM (#20405355)
You also dont know how good or effective the cosmetics are
Re:Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows by puranjay on Thursday July 11, 2019 @12:13AM (#20409063)
You might not know how good the cosmetics are until you buy them. But whether a t-shirt fits your style is plainly visible (unless they were selling plain tees). Very different product categories
Re:Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows by rhizome on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @05:39PM (#20406877)
I'm skeptical that the company is worth a real billion.
Re:Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows by buboard on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @05:52PM (#20406987)
a cursory glance at her revenue ($300M in 2016) shows that it probably is. And this is cosmetics so, mostly profit. There are SV startups losing more than that and worth many many billions.