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Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by mc32 on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @11:16AM (#20392593)
>”Move fast and break things" just isn't going to cut it anymore.”

That motivational quote should never have made it out into corporate communication. It was embraced by everyone[1] because it seemed edgy and hey that company is successful in spite of itself.

That should never have been embraced by anyone especially outside specific contexts.

[1]Just about everyone embraced it because it was a kind of punk attitude in the face of stodgy enterprise development schedules. Everyone wanted to seem cool, so they went whole hog.

Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by filoleg on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @12:49PM (#20393811)
I agree with you on that for heavy majority of companies (esp. medical or self-driving car ones) "move fast and break things" is not a good idea at all. However, I cannot agree with the absolutist nature of your statement.

>that company is successful in spite of itself

That's a pretty strong opinion. Some would argue that FB is successful because of stuff like that.

A bit of a sidenote, but after all, I remember how badly Zuck was clowned everywhere (including by FB shareholders and people here on HN) immediately after the purchase of Instagram and WhatsApp. People were saying that FB is dying and Zuck is trying to buy companies that are hyped but irrelevant to the core business out of desperation. These days, it is a pretty universal sentiment that those acquisitions were some of the smartest purchase decisions he could have made at the time.

Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by denzil_correa on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @05:58PM (#20397086)
> A bit of a sidenote, but after all, I remember how badly Zuck was clowned everywhere (including by FB shareholders and people here on HN) immediately after the purchase of Instagram and WhatsApp. People were saying that FB is dying and Zuck is trying to buy companies that are hyped but irrelevant to the core business out of desperation.

Most of HN didn't have some insider information which Facebook did. This information was acquired by surreptitious data logging of a VPN "security" app [0]. This is the same app which was controversially packaged as a "research" app and then forced to take down from the App store [1].

[0] https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebooks-onavo-gives-social-me...

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/22/17771298/facebook-onavo-p...

Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by kissickas on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @02:09PM (#20394861)
How has the WhatsApp acquisition helped the company? I assume they harvest metadata for their social graphs but my Facebook feed is still as irrelevant to me now as it was five years ago.
Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by rusk on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @11:27AM (#20392718)
I've seen this with medical devices. The amount of callouts these days for service technicians for newer equipment is ridiculous, to the point that you can't even get service technicians to come out any more! and yes, this does mean certain services knocked out for days at a time.
Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by levythe on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @11:45AM (#20392919)
That's a real surprise. I was under the impression that medical equipment was incredibly difficult to get approved for use.
Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by rusk on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @12:00PM (#20393132)
Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by thefounder on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @12:51PM (#20393829)
In Europe is easier to get approved but this is changing...
Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by bilbo0s on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @01:32PM (#20394397)
Well, in the US, there's the FDA. And that is a bit more stringent than EU.

But even in the US, medical equipment breaks down. Just not at near as high a rate.

Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by rusk on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @03:24PM (#20395610)
FDA has faaar less stringent regulations for medical equipment than for drugs.
Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by bilbo0s on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @03:50PM (#20395852)
Less stringent is not the same as not stringent.

I made medical imaging software for diagnosis and analysis. We would get a regulatory proctology exam every release. These guys would find arithmetic errors in papers referenced to support algorithms used in the software, and ask us about them. (Incidentally, that's where I learned never to trust "peer reviewed" papers or dissertations in computer science. Always check it, in detail, yourself. CS guys have to be some of the worst mathematicians I've seen during my time in scientific research.)

But yeah, the FDA were that anal in our case. If they were not that anal for you, I'm not sure why that is? Maybe the radiation? We were putting out software that potentially dealt with, essentially, irradiating humans. Software that controlled radioactive devices. Etc. No one wants the equivalent of a dirty bomb going off in some small town somewhere. So I don't blame the FDA for the whole "every i dotted, every t crossed" treatment. It was actually reassuring. At least in our case.

Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by rhizome on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @03:12PM (#20395505)
>Just about everyone embraced it because it was a kind of punk attitude in the face of stodgy enterprise development schedules. Everyone wanted to seem cool, so they went whole hog.

I think it's 10,000% more likely to be due to so much post-2008 ZIRP money floating around, so why give a shit about quality or consequences? As long as advertising and copyright industries are able to establish themselves as the fundamental arbiters of all content, anything else that happens to us or the companies are broken eggs for the proverbial omelet.

The people embracing MFaBT exhibit nothing resembling "punk attitude."

Re:Intention to fine Marriott more than £99M under GDPR for ... by granshaw on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @12:09PM (#20393272)
It’s a different era, when not literally everything was being done online yet. We’re now (possibly) shifting into an era where the most profitable modus operandi will need to be different, doesn’t mean it was a bad choice at the time