Multics Emacs: The History, Design and Implementation (1979)

Re:Multics Emacs: The History, Design and Implementation (1979) by microtherion on Sunday July 07, 2019 @05:28AM (#20374288)

One interesting bit I (re-)learned from this is that Multics Emacs was the first Emacs implemented in LISP, so although RMS implemented the first Emacs in TECO, and implemented the currently most popular Emacs, LISP was introduced into it by someone else.

And RMS makes no secret of that: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.html so I probably learned this before at some point.

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Re:Multics Emacs: The History, Design and Implementation (1979) by lispm on Sunday July 07, 2019 @05:44AM (#20374332)

> Multics Emacs was the first Emacs implemented in LISP

No, the first Emacs in Lisp was the one from Dan Weinreb for the Lisp Machine, which was also the second Emacs implementation. It was called EINE, EINE Is Not Emacs. Then ZWEI, ZWEI Was EINE Initially.

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Re:Multics Emacs: The History, Design and Implementation (1979) by DonHopkins on Sunday July 07, 2019 @11:44AM (#20375644)

However, MINCE Is Not Complete EMACS. (Hey Gyro!)

Check out the gorgeous Creative Computing ad:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINCE

And contrast with the ugly UniPress Emacs ad:

https://imgur.com/zFRzPYQ

    If you edit please try Emacs.

    PROGRAMMER GENERAL'S WARNING: Inferior
    Editors Cause Decreased Productivity Or
    Vaporware And May Complicate Development.

    UniPress Emacs: Less than 90MB "tar"(1).

Also ZMACS is ZetaLisp eMACS:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zmacs

And CLIMAX is Common Lisp Interface Manager emACS:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climacs

Of course JOVE is Jonathan's Own Version of Emacs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOVE

Sadly ZILE is Lossy Emacs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Zile

Worse yet, VILE is VI Like Emacs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vile_(editor)

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Re:Multics Emacs: The History, Design and Implementation (1979) by microtherion on Sunday July 07, 2019 @06:29AM (#20374449)

I stand corrected! And I could have learned that if I had read the footnote in RMS' article...

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Re:Multics Emacs: The History, Design and Implementation (1979) by p_l on Sunday July 07, 2019 @09:57AM (#20375085)

Didn't Multics Emacs predate ZWEI? Or was kind of contemporary to it?

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Re:Multics Emacs: The History, Design and Implementation (1979) by LukeShu on Sunday July 07, 2019 @11:11AM (#20375469)

It's my understanding that the EINE (v1) → ZWEI (v2) rename happened in the '80s, but that EINE was just slightly before Multics Emacs.

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Re:Multics Emacs: The History, Design and Implementation (1979) by lispm on Sunday July 07, 2019 @02:28PM (#20376772)

The Lisp Machine progress report from 1977 already mentions its Emacs-like editor.

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