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Re:Forest kindergarten by barry-cotter on Sunday July 07, 2019 @02:19AM (#20373809)
> I believe that it was a better program than a median program, but I’m not sure if it’s because his peers came from families who could afford to spend time with their children, or if the program itself was better than median.

Doesn’t matter which is true. Early educational interventions fade out universally and we have nothing that effects adult intelligence or conscientiousness which explain pretty much all variation in educational attainment, partly through their effect on SES.

> “Heckman curve” update: The data don’t seem to support the claim that human capital investments are most effective when targeted at younger ages.

https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2019/04/06/heckman-cu...

> The Heckman Curve describes the rate of return to public investments in human capital for the disadvantaged as rapidly diminishing with age. Investments early in the life course are characterised as providing significantly higher rates of return compared to investments targeted at young people and adults. This paper uses the Washington State Institute for Public Policy dataset of program benefit cost ratios to assess if there is a Heckman Curve relationship between program rates of return and recipient age. The data does not support the claim that social policy programs targeted early in the life course have the largest returns, or that the benefits of adult programs are less than the cost of intervention.

Re:Forest kindergarten by nimnio on Monday July 15, 2019 @03:43PM (#20444434)
The paper you're citing investigates the idea that "early childhood investments have significantly higher benefit cost ratios than those targeted at older age group", and it concludes that "there may in fact be no relationship between program cost effectiveness and the age of the recipient."

From this you seem to have drawn the surprising conclusion that there is no benefit to greater in investment in early childhood education, a conclusion which the paper you're citing specifically warns against:

> This finding does not imply that there should be less investment in early childhood programs. There are many early interventions that have large positive rates of return, and there are powerful equity reasons for investment in children.

> The data shows that prevention can be cost effective, but in addition, later treatment and amelioration using evidenced based programs can also succeed.

Re:Forest kindergarten by EL_Loco on Sunday July 07, 2019 @09:06AM (#20374888)
What do you mean by 'fade out universally'?
Re:Forest kindergarten by em-bee on Sunday July 07, 2019 @09:55AM (#20375076)
i think it means that the effects get lesser and lesser. that is, having a child go to an exceptional kindergarten may show the childs improvements in elementary school, but by the time they are in highschool that child is no different than a child that went to an average kindergarten.

i don't know if that is true.

i believe there are some things that really make a long term difference, however these things are more likely coming from the parents themselves and less from the schools they go to.