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Re:VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies by IshKebab on Saturday July 06, 2019 @05:50AM (#20368833)
I still think the NSA employs Linux devs so they can deliberately insert flaws. Why would they not? It would be very easy. But every time I mention it people reply "But but many eyes! They'd get caught!"
Re:VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies by mercora on Saturday July 06, 2019 @07:08AM (#20369057)
I want to point out that they could similarly hire someone working at microsoft, or get someone up for a position there, to do this and it would be at least as hard to detect...
Re:VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies by anxman on Saturday July 06, 2019 @08:30AM (#20369323)
Large companies like Microsoft assume that there are advanced persistent threats that are willing to place HUMINT inside of their companies. The companies have dedicated internal teamd focused on detecting them.

For example, Twitter recently fired someone that was leaking information on dissidents to a foreign government.

Re:VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies by lostlogin on Saturday July 06, 2019 @03:25PM (#20371378)
I wonder if they would do that if the leak was to their own government.
Re:VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies by IshKebab on Saturday July 06, 2019 @03:12PM (#20371282)
You could, but it would be more difficult (though easily within the ability of the NSA).

To contribute to the Windows kernel you'd have to get someone hired by Microsoft, who presumably check their employment history (maybe), they have to actually go and work for Microsoft, etc. Obviously none of that is impossible but it's also obviously much harder than sending a patch to a mailing list.

Re:VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies by tomatocracy on Saturday July 06, 2019 @04:01PM (#20371565)
Or you find someone who already works there who's having an affair and blackmail them into working for you. It's no different to how spies have operated for centuries.
Re:VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies by nickpsecurity on Saturday July 06, 2019 @06:18AM (#20368906)
Although possible, they don't have to given how many bugs Linux developers already put in on a regular basis:

https://events.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/1...

Re:VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies by IshKebab on Saturday July 06, 2019 @03:13PM (#20371288)
That is scary.
Re:VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies by mwilliaams on Saturday July 06, 2019 @06:02AM (#20368865)
I’m sure they make the flaws look like honest mistakes, and whatever gets found by someone else is simply patched with a “bugfix” commit.
Re:VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies by fit2rule on Saturday July 06, 2019 @06:26AM (#20368938)
The Wests' military-industrial-pharmaceutical complex has weaponised groupthink to such an extent that the ease by which incitement of mass hysteria at scale can be manifested is a non-issue for these players.

Too many times, the western collective is convinced of its own righteousness in regards to issues which factually were counter to its own survival.

The point is, even if the NSA did have key Linux devs on its roster, we don't have the tools - as the unwashed masses - to counter it. Besides which, the Linux kernel is hardly the right target - compilers, however, are...