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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by lkbm on Thursday July 04, 2019 @09:26AM (#20354393)
I just tried Walmart.com (with uBlock Origin). It's 2.4MB, with 32 scripts loaded.

Amazon.com (logged in) was 12MB, with 28 scripts.

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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by majewsky on Thursday July 04, 2019 @11:03AM (#20355183)
What I find more significant: walmart.com takes 9 seconds to start displaying meaningful content, amazon.com is finished loading in 3 seconds.

(Disclaimer: Anecdata for my system, obviously.)

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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by Retric on Thursday July 04, 2019 @05:03PM (#20357771)
That’s really odd, just checked on my iPad which has never been to Walmart.com and it fully loaded in under 2 seconds. Amazon.com which I have visited before was mostly done in the same time frame, but took around 4 seconds to fully load.
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by deanCommie on Thursday July 04, 2019 @12:13PM (#20355726)
Probably cuz Walmart refuses to use AWS...
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by cameronbrown on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:03PM (#20356094)
I can imagine funding their direct competitor (which they're losing to) might not be a great idea.
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by Kocrachon on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:09PM (#20356135)
I wonder if that mentality with change if/when AWS splits from AMZN.
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by cameronbrown on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:20PM (#20356216)
Amazon Retail would be an unsustainable mess without AWS.
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by leesec on Thursday July 04, 2019 @09:13PM (#20359182)
Lol yes Amazon was definitely not a thriving company before AWS, good point.
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by sinsterizme on Thursday July 04, 2019 @06:12PM (#20358215)
Why is that?
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by jacques_chester on Thursday July 04, 2019 @08:12PM (#20358882)
AWS has much fatter margins than retail.

There are substitutes for AWS, but the switching cost is relatively high. Whereas for toothpaste, breakfast cereal, toasters, books etc etc the substitution is perfect (I can buy the same brands from many companies) and switching cost is low (I pull out a credit card).

Insofar as Amazon has a large free cashflow coming off AWS after capital improvements, it can use that money to (a) attract cheap funding from Wall St to (b) build, build, build.

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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by Ericson2314 on Thursday July 04, 2019 @07:03PM (#20358492)
Dear God I hope the FTC cleaves vertically not horizontally.
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by CydeWeys on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:55PM (#20356888)
AWS isn't the only cloud, and several AWS competitors have similar or better performance numbers. This isn't it.
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by gibolt on Thursday July 04, 2019 @03:28PM (#20357068)
Having used most of the competition, none can consistently compete. While they may have some better numbers, configuration complexity and user experience make achieving them in real-world use difficult
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by cglace on Thursday July 04, 2019 @04:55PM (#20357715)
Having used every major public cloud I find google cloud to be the easiest to configure and manage.
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by jjeaff on Thursday July 04, 2019 @05:05PM (#20357796)
Google clouds network is superior to AWS. I would be very surprised if a head to head comparison didn't have GCP in the lead as far as speed.
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by mrep on Thursday July 04, 2019 @03:06PM (#20356949)
Lol, amazon retail still hardly uses AWS. They use mostly their custom nosql database sable and a ton of Oracle SQL databases (albeit, a decent amount of those are getting migrated to rds postgresql)
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by justinv on Friday July 05, 2019 @04:18AM (#20360768)
This is not true. Amazon turned off oracle DB late last year and is trending Oracle free.

https://twitter.com/ajassy/status/1060979175098437632

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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by Mountain_Skies on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:18PM (#20356202)
May sound like a silly question but does Amazon ecommerce actually run on AWS?
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by dnautics on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:53PM (#20356438)
I hear it might be azure when cloud but mostly on prem. (See one cloud)
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Re:Conflict at Walmart threatens its ecommerce battle with A... by tracker1 on Friday July 05, 2019 @02:42PM (#20364756)
Just tried with ublock disabled, it's about 3.1mb and loaded in 3 seconds flat here. I'm not sure what GP is going on about. Amazon was 14.4mb and took about 4.5s to settle down.

I will say, Amazon's above the fold paint was faster, but it did load a LOT after that.

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