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Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by lifeisstillgood on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:07AM (#20351725)
For years I lived in FreeBSD world - servers and laptops. I was fighting the good fight and rationalised that having to only remember one location for network services was a win.

Then I took a second look. I realised that I was spending waaayy too much time getting the laptop usable (usually wifi) and not going enough using it

I bailed for ubuntu and I cannot remember where the network confit is and hate the GUI but I have stopped caring and I just do my work

Sometimes I feel dirty.

Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by gbmor on Thursday July 04, 2019 @04:43AM (#20352772)
I switched from Linux to OpenBSD, then to FreeBSD as my primary OS on my laptop, which involved a bit more set-up time than I was accustomed to with Linux, previously. Eventually I grew tired of the manual setup for so many things and bailed for Debian Sid.

It feels like a nice middle-ground. Most things work out of the box, but I still get to tinker and scratch that itch.

Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by munmaek on Friday July 05, 2019 @09:54AM (#20362507)
I went the same route. Arch -> Void -> FreeBSD -> OpenBSD -> Debian Stretch (no desktop, just xorg + i3).

I love it. No more random updates breaking things like in Arch. I can install things relatively smoothly and get them running quickly. If I really do need the latest version of something I can still install from source. Etc.

I just want to work on things, not configure things endlessly and deal with random bugs :-)

Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by gbmor on Saturday July 13, 2019 @03:10AM (#20426916)
That is exactly how I feel.
Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by loxs on Thursday July 04, 2019 @01:29AM (#20351826)
Did the same, but for me the transition was from Linux (various flavours) to Mac OS. Feel even dirtier :(
Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by fulafel on Friday July 05, 2019 @09:44AM (#20362434)
You can use the server cli/conffile driven networking tools, ifupdown (pre-18) / netplan (18.04+) even if you are on a laptop and running GUI. Just uninstall NetworkManager.
Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by commandersaki on Thursday July 04, 2019 @11:42AM (#20355491)
You know what shits me? Restarting networking remotely and realising you also need to restart the routing to install your routes. Whoops, many many many times over.
Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by rthomas6 on Saturday July 06, 2019 @08:50PM (#20372941)
Arch Linux is calling you
Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by brokenkebab on Thursday July 04, 2019 @05:18AM (#20352946)
And what really stopped you from having your laptop finally configured?
Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by lifeisstillgood on Friday July 05, 2019 @05:25PM (#20366001)
Frankly there was just too much to learn - I remember being totally chuffed I had found a slimline xdm replacement with no dependency on Gnome / KDE and yeah it is good and it is lightweight and I knew where the source code was but ... even if I found a slim lightweight version of every thing on a modern desktop - well I could not even list all the components.

There is a some unix replacement project trying to rewrite major parts "simply". But in the end you just don't understand 90% of what is going on or you have a tiny tiny server.

It's like everything these days is npm - install one thing and suddenly you find there are 900 packages installed including left-pad-0.3.4

Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by h1d on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:36AM (#20352104)
What's so dirty bypassing that isn't productive for you?
Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by z3phyr on Thursday July 04, 2019 @03:35AM (#20352424)
What does productive mean? The thing that get you satisfaction or money?
Re:OpenBSD Is Now My Workstation by munmaek on Friday July 05, 2019 @09:42AM (#20362412)
Being able to Just Do Things without mucking around in config files, building a, b, c things from source and dealing with random missing dependencies d, e, f. Then having to search online to fix Random Obscure Errors g, h i, etc, and so on. Or in the case of bsd-likes, maybe needing to write ports and adapt makefiles, etc.

I've gone Arch -> FreeBSD -> OpenBSD -> Debian for my main pc, and osx for my laptop. I used to like manually tweaking and configuring everything but these days I just want to turn on the computer and get into a workflow with as few headaches as possible.