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Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @10:17AM (#20344459)
> I literally cannot imagine supporting monopolies/oligopolies over healthy competition.

Implicit in my post was that I don't want to support healthy competition in adtech, or any competition at all. I want this industry to disappear entirely. I have no tears for the small adtech businesses whose market got scooped up by Google; I only hope that by presenting a bigger target, Google's adtech activities will be easier to regulate.

Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by xtracerx on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:45AM (#20345303)
So if I open a new small business and want to advertise it on AdWords or elsewhere on the internet I have no recourse? Word of mouth is random and unreliable even if you have a good product. Advertising is a healthy and essential signalling mechanism to broadcast the availability of a new service and there is absolutely nothing morally wrong with it in its self. The non-benneficial side-effects like extensive user tracking and practices that drastically harm user experience however are bad and a seperate issue to be dealt with.
Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by dmitriid on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @04:28PM (#20348418)
> So if I open a new small business and want to advertise it on AdWords or elsewhere on the internet I have no recourse

Ad tech was extremely profitable before personalisation and wholesale trading of private data.

Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by sfifs on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @05:56PM (#20349293)
> Ad tech was extremely profitable

That was the era when marketers were dumb, drank the internet look aid and were taken for a ride by the industry. That's not quite true anymore.

Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by dmitriid on Thursday July 04, 2019 @02:37PM (#20356789)
They will work just fine today, too
Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by osd on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @10:36AM (#20344628)
The implication wasn't clear because, frankly, it's a silly thought. This post is ripe for that "that's not how any of this works" meme.

I can understand the emotional intent, but it's important to ensure that routes we take actually get us to the outcomes we want.