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Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by CaptainZapp on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @08:35AM (#20343727)
If stringent government regulation got you here, maybe it will be less of that, not more, that gets you out.

Yeah, we see how fantastically that one worked with the Boeing corporation and their newest flagship plane, The 737MAX.

Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by ggreer on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @12:30PM (#20345869)
The 737 MAX exists because it's so onerous to get government certification for a new airframe (and for governments to certify pilots on a new airframe). Boeing would love to ditch all the legacy cruft on the 737 and start from scratch, but doing so would not be cost-effective in today's regulatory environment.

The only reason this same issue didn't happen to Airbus is because the plane was high enough to give the pilots time to troubleshoot:

> The Alpha Protection activated forcing the aircraft to pitch down, which could not be corrected even by full back stick input. The crew eventually disconnected the related Air Data Units and was able to recover the aircraft.[1]

1. http://avherald.com/h?article=47d74074

Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by thekyle on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @08:49PM (#20350534)
It is true from what I understand of the crashes that the MCAS system was created to comply with regulations.

Specifically it was created to comply with regulations surrounding a flight manoeuvre that would never actually occur on a real flight.

> Engineers determined that on the MAX, the force the pilots feel in the control column as they execute this maneuver would not smoothly and continuously increase. Pilots who pull back forcefully on the column — sometimes called the stick — might suddenly feel a slackening of resistance. An FAA rule requires that the plane handle with smoothly changing stick forces.

So, if those regulations had not existed then MCAS would not have been needed and the planes may not have crashed.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/the...

Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by criley2 on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @09:54AM (#20344270)
Gotta love the uber-intellectual reply that any valid criticism of European regulation brings: "but WHATABOUT <this other unrelated case>"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by CaptainZapp on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @11:28AM (#20345113)
Other commenters pointed out with far more eloquence, why your accusation of absolutism is a pretty cheap rethoric trick.

But here's something else to chew on:

European regulations often benefit me, the individual, instead of corporations.

It guarantees that I don't pay 6$ a minute for a phone call from Tallinn to Tulouse. It ensures that I'm not ripped off 30 Euros for making an intereuropean money transfer, it provides my airline with a pretty good motivation not to bump me for fun and profit and it seems to work a lot better in the food safety department.

Granted, not all regulation is good regulation, but overall it seems more beneficial to society at large than to some scummy ad-tech business specifically.

Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by anoncake on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @10:11AM (#20344408)
It's not unrelated, it demonstrates that while unregulated markets may be a nice idea in theory, they just don't work in practice. Not that an analogy were necessary. The unregulated ad industry itself shows that an unregulated ad industry is a bad idea.
Re:Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent... by ionised on Wednesday July 03, 2019 @10:34AM (#20344609)
Accusations of whataboutism are invalid when you are calling out related points or highlighting hypocrisy and double standards:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism#Criticism

Some commentators have defended the usage of whataboutism and tu quoque in certain contexts. Whataboutism can provide necessary context into whether or not a particular line of critique is relevant or fair. For instance, in international relations, behavior that may be imperfect by international standards may be quite good for a given geopolitical neighborhood, and deserves to be recognized as such.

Christian Christensen, Professor of Journalism in Stockholm, argues that the accusation of whataboutism is itself a form of tu quoque fallacy, as it dismisses criticisms of one's own behavior to focus instead on the actions of another, thus creating a double standard. Those who use whataboutism are not necessarily engaging in an empty or cynical deflection of responsibility: whataboutism can be a useful tool to expose contradictions, double standards, and hypocrisy.

Others have criticized the usage of accusations of whataboutism by American news outlets, arguing that the accusation whataboutism has been used to simply "deflect" criticisms of human rights abuses perpetrated by the United States or its allies. They argue that the usage of the term almost exclusively by American outlets is a double standard, and that moral accusations made by powerful countries are merely a pretext to punish their geopolitical rivals in the face of their own wrongdoing.

The scholars Kristen Ghodsee and Scott Sehon posit that mentioning the possible existence of victims of capitalism in popular discourse is often dismissed as 'whataboutism', which they describe as "a term implying that only atrocities perpetrated by communists merit attention." They also argue that such accusations of 'whataboutism' are invalid as the same arguments used against communism can also be used against capitalism.