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Re:Fuchsia Developers Website by pjmlp on Saturday June 29, 2019 @01:01PM (#20313586)
Plenty of top quality engineers write kernel code in C++ every day.

His baby would be nowhere without the contribution of the likes of IBM, Compaq, Oracle and many other nameless contributors.

Linus opinion is his opinion, that is all.

Re:Fuchsia Developers Website by z3phyr on Sunday June 30, 2019 @02:29AM (#20316697)
@pjmlp I am going to hijack this and ask you somewhat off topic question:

Most of the OS books teach in a very Unix centered way. Can you recommend some books or resources which describe non-C non-Unixy Operating Systems? I really liked the Blue Book of Smalltalk, and looking for more!

Re:Fuchsia Developers Website by pjmlp on Sunday June 30, 2019 @05:43AM (#20317304)
Sure.

- MacOS (pre-OS X)

"Revolution in the Valley"

https://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Valley-Insanely-Great-Stor...

http://basalgangster.macgui.com/RetroMacComputing/The_Long_V...

- NeXTSTEP / Mac OS X

Debatable about non-C non-Unixy part, but it surely isn't the focus of the whole stack.

"Mac OS X Internals: A Systems Approach"

https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-Internals-Approach-paperback/d...

http://www.nextop.de/NeXTstep_3.3_Developer_Documentation/

- Oberon and its derivatives (1992 and 2013 versions, System 3, Insight ETHOS and A2)

https://inf.ethz.ch/personal/wirth/

https://inf.ethz.ch/personal/wirth/ProjectOberon/index.html

http://www.projectoberon.com/

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.472...

http://www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/Documentation/Front

https://www.research-collection.ethz.ch/handle/20.500.11850/...

- Symbian

"Symbian OS Internals: Real-time Kernel Programming"

https://www.amazon.com/Symbian-OS-Internals-Real-time-Progra...

"Symbian OS Platform Security: Software Development Using the Symbian OS Security Architecture"

https://www.amazon.com/Symbian-Platform-Security-Development...

"The Symbian OS Architecture Sourcebook: Design and Evolution of a Mobile Phone OS"

https://www.amazon.com/Symbian-OS-Architecture-Sourcebook-Ev...

- Mesa and Mesa/Cedar

http://www.digibarn.com/friends/curbow/star/XDEPaper.pdf

http://worrydream.com/refs/Teitelman%20-%20The%20Cedar%20Pro...

- JX

http://www4.cs.fau.de/Projects/JX/

- SPIN OS

http://www-spin.cs.washington.edu/external/overview.html

- Singularity,

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/singularity...

https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-A-res...

https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Singularity-Revis...

- Barrelfish

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/barrelfish/...

- Midori,

http://joeduffyblog.com/2015/11/03/blogging-about-midori/

https://www.infoq.com/presentations/csharp-systems-programmi...

"RustConf 2017 - Closing Keynote: Safe Systems Software and the Future of Computing"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVm938gMWl0

"While never reaching commercial release, at one time Midori powered all of Microsoft’s natural language search service for the West Coast and Asia."

Source: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/singularity...

- Helios

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/...

- Muen

https://muen.codelabs.ch/

- GenodeOS

https://genode.org/documentation/index

- Inferno

http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/docs.html

- Minix 3

https://wiki.minix3.org/doku.php?id=www:documentation:start

- BeOS

"Be Developer's Guide"

https://www.amazon.com/Be-Developers-Guide-Development-Team/...

"Be Advanced Topics"

https://www.amazon.com/Be-Advanced-Topics-Development-Team/d...

- Windows

https://www.amazon.de/Windows-Internals-Part-Pavel-Yosifovic...

https://www.amazon.de/Windows-Internals-Part-Mark-Russinovic...

https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Rob-Short-and-ker...

https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Going+Deep/Doron-Holan-Kerne...

https://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/3-005

Not everything by a long shot, plenty more to re-discover like VMS,IBM i and Z, Unisys ClearPath, mbed,...

Just keep an open mind and don't idolatrize UNIX, yes it has a couple of good ideas, but they don't make it the be all end all of OS design.

Re:Fuchsia Developers Website by z3phyr on Sunday June 30, 2019 @05:58AM (#20317361)
Thank you so much!!