Re:SKS Keyserver Network Under Attack
by jlgaddis on Saturday June 29, 2019 @12:40PM
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Out of curiosity, which is more obscure: OCaml or Rust?
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Re:SKS Keyserver Network Under Attack
by kchamplewski on Saturday June 29, 2019 @12:57PM
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Probably OCaml. While it's been around much longer, it's never really reached mass acceptance (though does get used here and there). Rust is newer but I'd estimate it's already more used, and its adoption in industry is growing quite quickly.
This is probably to do with the fact that OCaml doesn't necessarily solve any problems that are apparent to businesses, whereas Rust solves the very apparent "manual memory management makes massive vulns trivial" problem.
I'm not sure which language is actually more approachable for someone trying to learn it from scratch though.
Re:SKS Keyserver Network Under Attack
by AnaniasAnanas on Saturday June 29, 2019 @01:11PM
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OCaml is very popular in academia though, especially in the field of theoretical computer science and formal verification. Coq, Frama-C, Flow, CompCert, etc are all written in OCaml. Heck, if you are running a graphical GNU distribution chances are that you have installed FFTW, which is written in OCaml. The "industry" is not the only thing that matters when considering the adoption of a language.
Also a Mirage OS/unikernel, BAP and BinCat binary analysis frameworks, Facebook Infer source-level static analyzer, etc.
Reason (the frontend framework/language by Facebook) is OCaml.
Re:SKS Keyserver Network Under Attack
by literallycancer on Saturday June 29, 2019 @07:22PM
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Have you used Reason for anything serious? How was it?
Re:SKS Keyserver Network Under Attack
by paulddraper on Saturday June 29, 2019 @09:06PM
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Particularly if your talking about a quasi-adademic PGP community.
Re:SKS Keyserver Network Under Attack
by steveklabnik on Saturday June 29, 2019 @07:37PM
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Fun fact: Rust’s initial implementation was in OCaml.
Re:SKS Keyserver Network Under Attack
by CameronNemo on Saturday June 29, 2019 @05:20PM
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Right? I was reading about this and thinking "hey, maybe technically sound but less well-known languages like OCaml or Rust are not always a good choice".
The question is not obscurity, the question is security. And there ocaml wins by miles over rust.
Re:SKS Keyserver Network Under Attack
by literallycancer on Saturday June 29, 2019 @07:26PM
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Are you talking about the compiler itself? Or the tooling and the libraries that you have to deal with when you try to actually use the language?