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Re:White House weighs encryption crackdown by vorticalbox on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:18PM (#20305902)
But one has freedom of speech without encryption. I'm having a hard time for freedom of speach applies in this case?

I am from the UK but my understanding is that you cant incriminate yourself which would likely be an issue here?

Re:White House weighs encryption crackdown by ISL on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:31PM (#20306065)
Freedom of speech includes, as a subset, the right to speak in encrypted speech.

  Wf4SyiBipCvf1+w4LbZVmvTQTknq4OtvI+QV60KAPL88U2BbTvHfPM7TRn0Nl+0kTvI+zjMZdTVp7fDaexcgRoGSOZl1TUsoJOrlygrvCuQlmMCx0GHgBo5i8/jnf4kXSyL8RCIUsiS9A86DNBmcdmTqnVdIykIbVdKZkR+e4df7bq40fBTpF2EvEhG8d9UycGaCK3ULNl4qS+zXtjT/MPTDK2zPZJKon3851a9PboFqhY1jlrI6iL0Z7/LT6+iffhUHNtF0wu/hMKKYr4HkN6iUra8HlpqjFnZ8N3aBpN62hT3zdaEIZg8rqkiHcM9bFmMubaVZZgdqtJuEQK3yYY+Iuj6K/7a7eZLqBWU0DK6lOY/BJIKeg0hRlCnTCk3D2uuWeJCX1SzEdH2jw+RVI2ywd9cIw7Bw/GSnR5WLuxHJSrU55768w0rBfYDFQGfIB/RCLZlyu3eID/v7LJWSUA==
The First Amendment, ostensibly AES-encrypted via https://www.gillmeister-software.com/online-tools/text/encry... using the password 'speech'
Re:White House weighs encryption crackdown by cameronbrown on Friday June 28, 2019 @01:29PM (#20306739)
Indeed. You could take the analogy a step further in that if you add the government as an additional party in the conversation, it's compelled speech because they're forcing you to communicate differently.
Re:White House weighs encryption crackdown by daveFNbuck on Saturday June 29, 2019 @02:08AM (#20311034)
The first amendment has been ruled to allow restrictions on the time, place, and manner of speech, as long as those restrictions are content neutral.
Re:White House weighs encryption crackdown by jumbopapa on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:26PM (#20306007)
I suspect you could find reasoning in the 1st and 4th amendment that protect encryption. Freedom of Speech would apply to encrypted to or unencrypted communications because you're free to speak in whatever format you choose. It doesn't say that encrypted speech is excluded, so it can only be assumed that it is included.
Re:White House weighs encryption crackdown by dcow on Friday June 28, 2019 @01:00PM (#20306406)
But you’re assuming that encrypted speech only contains its decrypted meaning or even that its decrypted version means anything. Maybe I want to speak the encrypted text. Maybe an encrypted message is what I want to communicate. Imagine an encryption/coding scheme where the cipher-text looks like normal speech but doesn’t mean what it seems like it means... hopefully you get the idea.
Re:White House weighs encryption crackdown by jumbopapa on Friday June 28, 2019 @01:13PM (#20306556)
I still don't see how in this encryption scheme you could make the case it isn't allowed by the 1st amendment.
Re:White House weighs encryption crackdown by jstanley on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:29PM (#20306044)
Because you wouldn't be free to speak encrypted messages?