Re:Slack – Degraded service affecting multiple features
by pmlnr on Friday June 28, 2019 @10:54AM
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Why is paying another company better than getting employees and paying them the same or even less money?!
When did this madness start?
Re:Slack – Degraded service affecting multiple features
by untog on Friday June 28, 2019 @10:58AM
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In what world is it going to be "the same or even less money" to hire one or two sysadmins on a full-time basis than paying for a Slack subscription?
Re:Slack – Degraded service affecting multiple features
by TeMPOraL on Friday June 28, 2019 @11:24AM
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Tbh., if you need two full-time sysadmins to run your IRC server + bouncer + log backup + web frontend, you're doing something really wrong. It's more like an after-school job for a bored CS student.
Re:Slack – Degraded service affecting multiple features
by pmlnr on Friday June 28, 2019 @11:00AM
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I don't know how large your company is, but with 10k+ employees, it's suddenly a reasonable option.
Re:Slack – Degraded service affecting multiple features
by untog on Friday June 28, 2019 @11:23AM
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With that many employees you're signing up for Slack's enterprise tier, and you can bet they price it so that they come out the right side of this cost/benefit calculation for a lot of companies.
Re:Slack – Degraded service affecting multiple features
by pmlnr on Friday June 28, 2019 @11:30AM
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I have seen those numbers. You could easily afford paying sysadmins with those numbers.
Re:Slack – Degraded service affecting multiple features
by foxylion on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:33PM
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But managing an IRC server cluster for 10.000+ users is no simple task.
Paying experts in their field (chat tools in this case) is most of the time the most reliable and cheapest variant. You must also include that Slack has plenty of features that are not available in IRC and mean the productivity is not as good.
Re:Slack – Degraded service affecting multiple features
by jbverschoor on Friday June 28, 2019 @01:42PM
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Since when is running any service for a number of people something people compare with running google?
30 years ago, efnet was (apparently) 35k users.
That's my entire point. It's death by a thousand cuts. Now I'm responsible for an IRC server, a web frontend, a mobile app and a bouncer.
The OP said "just run an IRC server". There is no "Slack or just an IRC server". There's "Slack or a number of connected, interdependent services you need to maintain". I'm not saying it can't be done, or that it isn't the right answer for some people, but it's also a lot more work (and thus, expense) than just paying for Slack. It absolutely makes sense that people do it.