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Re:“The books will stop working.” by nabla9 on Thursday June 27, 2019 @05:18PM (#20298872)
This is why when I buy a DRM ebook, I also get the pirated copy and put it into my Calibre.

Buying a ebook is just for the payment.

Re:“The books will stop working.” by taneq on Thursday June 27, 2019 @06:20PM (#20299448)
I do the same now with movies, as well as making sure I have unencumbered digital copies of any music I buy. I'm happy to pay for good content but damned if I'm going to buy it again every time the disc scratches (and besides, who even has a CD drive any more?)
Re:“The books will stop working.” by la_barba on Thursday June 27, 2019 @07:32PM (#20299993)
You just signaled that you find value in the DRM'd product, even if that wasn't your intent. Why not reward creators who choose to distribute their works without DRM? I'm neither pro nor anti-DRM, but I find that people who love to hate on DRM (nothing personal towards you), never seem to be willing to take a hit when it comes to living without popular content that doesn't exist on non-DRM channels/platforms.
Re:“The books will stop working.” by cyphar on Thursday June 27, 2019 @08:17PM (#20300280)
> I find that people who love to hate on DRM (nothing personal towards you), never seem to be willing to take a hit when it comes to living without popular content that doesn't exist on non-DRM channels/platforms.

I pay for DRM-free versions of anything if it's available -- even if it's more expensive (I've downloaded many hundreds of dollars of DRM-free audiobooks). I eben refuse to buy physical books from authors like JK Rowling (who tried to force book-owners to return copies of the Half-Blood Prince that were accidentally sold early).

Here in Australia you sometimes can't even buy the DRM-up-the-wazoo version. Game of Thrones wasn't available through any legal channels for years. And that's ignoring the Australia Tax we get for not being from the US or Europe (the shipping costs of bytes is very high it seems).

Then again, I also don't watch too many films or shows these days. Mainly because I can't get many DRM-free versions.

Re:“The books will stop working.” by JauntyHatAngle on Thursday June 27, 2019 @09:33PM (#20300742)
Game of thrones was such a good example of how out of date DRM can get.

It was quite literally getting released months after it's release in the US in the early seasons, and only on pay TV.

With the way everyone is connected online, it was ludicrous to think people were going to wait months to watch each episode and not get it spoiled for them and/or not be able to discuss it on worldwide forums.

Re:“The books will stop working.” by ineedasername on Thursday June 27, 2019 @08:48PM (#20300486)
> Why not reward creators who choose to distribute their works without DRM?

Your average author doesn't have a choice in this, they have no clout to dictate terms to their publishers over the inclusion of DRM

Re:“The books will stop working.” by tremon on Friday June 28, 2019 @08:29AM (#20303561)
But it is us, consumers, who don't give the authors the clout they need, by continuing to buy DRM'd content.
Re:“The books will stop working.” by ineedasername on Saturday June 29, 2019 @11:15PM (#20316125)
Because we rarely have the choice. I'd wager it's a conservative estimate to say 90% of published content is under drm restrictions. I wouldn't be surprised if it was more like 99%.

And what of students with textbooks? Zero choice for alternatives there, and increasingly even the physical versions all come with required drmed additional single-use content making resale value of the book worhtless when once it was a source of a bit of extra money after spending hundreds on them at the start of the semester.

Re:“The books will stop working.” by salutonmundo on Thursday June 27, 2019 @05:34PM (#20299044)
Great of something that is ethically bulletproof but quite illegal!
Re:“The books will stop working.” by tim333 on Thursday June 27, 2019 @06:06PM (#20299326)
Legal grey area.

> But if you are making a copy so that you may use a copyrighted product in case the original is stolen, damaged or destroyed, your conduct may fall within the doctrine of fair use. https://info.legalzoom.com/copyright-law-making-personal-cop...

Re:“The books will stop working.” by saagarjha on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:00AM (#20301360)
I think the important bit is that you are making the copy.
Re:“The books will stop working.” by ggm on Thursday June 27, 2019 @05:47PM (#20299164)
Depends on your economy. Specifically what he does is of course illegal but the general principle of removing drm from your own purchase isn't

That the bitstream of semantically meaningful content is identical appears to be the key issue. Why does it matter how you get there?

Re:“The books will stop working.” by sjy on Thursday June 27, 2019 @05:58PM (#20299264)
The general principle of removing DRM is forbidden, at least in the US, which is presumably why DRM removal tools are distributed through the same shady web sources as pirated content.

"No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201

Re:“The books will stop working.” by ggm on Thursday June 27, 2019 @11:27PM (#20301245)
https://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/20-contracting-out/tech...

I assumed it passed. Looks like it didn't pass, because of the US laws.

Re:“The books will stop working.” by modsiw on Friday June 28, 2019 @12:01AM (#20301363)
But if it is circumvented then it wasn’t effectively controlling access; therefore, this isn’t applicable.

A savvy lawyer might argue that’s not what’s meant by effectively, but it’s at least a little ambiguous.

Re:“The books will stop working.” by sjy on Friday June 28, 2019 @05:29AM (#20302731)
The ambiguity is resolved by the explicit definition provided in the section: 'a technological measure "effectively controls access to a work" if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work.' So the word 'effectively' isn't very effective here.