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Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by gcbw2 on Thursday June 27, 2019 @01:27PM (#20296575)
Same here. I do not know why the heck Mozilla is tiptoeing from just hiring Raymond and making uBlock an integral part of firefox.

Note that they already included something similar, which is SafeBrowsing(TM), that is maintained by google. Technically, it is exactly the same concept. But uBlock is actively request by 99% of their users, while safeBrowser(TM) fingerprinting is mostly disabled by half.

Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by sciurus on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:13PM (#20297019)
I think the better comparison than SafeBrowsing for uBlock would be Firefox's Enhanced Tracking Protection, which is on by default. This uses data maintained by Disconnect.

(Disclaimer: I work for Mozilla)

Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by gcbw2 on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:34PM (#20297226)
Not really. Advanced users can selectively disable Javascript/frames/media etc on a per-site basis. Also the user has the control to allow trackers on site they care about and know the consequences.

I am sorry but tracking protection on mozilla as it is now (only enabled by default on private windows, and hapening with no user knowledge/information/learning oportunities) is a lame clutch.

Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by eco on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:47PM (#20297321)
It's actually on by default now as of this month.
Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by darkpuma on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:40PM (#20297272)
uBlock Origin and uMatrix in particular are fantastic addons, but I think the UX is still too much for the average casual non-technical user.

I wish they'd focus more on getting the UX of containers up to snuff. They are almost there, but still far enough away to make addons like Multi-Account Containers (MAC) something I cannot recommend to my parents.

Here is what I mean: Suppose I want to keep my use of example.com separate in it's own Example container. How do I do that?

1) Click the MAC icon in the toolbar, then click the "+" button.

2) Enter 'Example', pick an icon or color, then click okay.

3) Open a new Example container.

4) Navigate to example.com in the Example container

5) Click the MAC icon in the toolbar, then check "Always open in Example"

6) Close the tab.

7) Open a new tab, and browse to example.com

8) Click "Remember my decision"

9) Click "Open in Example container"

This is nuts. I can't recommend this workflow to anybody.

Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by bobajeff on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:24PM (#20297111)
I'm pretty sure the main reason is that all websites with block them and tell you to install Chrome if they ever did.

Outside of that I'm sure turning ad blocking on by default would break several sites.

Also publicly, they've said that ads are an integral part of the web.

Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by gcbw2 on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:33PM (#20297213)
Fine. ship it off. This is not a valid excuse.

What's the difference of shipping a feature off, and shipping with support for an extension (on both firefox and Google's chrome store sites!) that can be installed? At this point we are just discussing semantics. Install vs Turn on.

Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by silon42 on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:00PM (#20296901)
plugins are better (I use uMatrix).
Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by gcbw2 on Thursday June 27, 2019 @02:39PM (#20297258)
uBlock origin is turning into uMatrix, even on mobile (fenec) Firefox. Sneakily ;)
Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by Touche on Thursday June 27, 2019 @01:32PM (#20296617)
Pure speculation, I wonder if their contract with Google forbids them from having ad blocking as part of the browser. At least if I was a company paying another company millions of dollars I wouldn't let them block my income stream in their product.
Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by ChrisSD on Thursday June 27, 2019 @01:44PM (#20296736)
They already have an adblocker built in (well a tracking blocker but that often amounts to the same thing).
Re:Reinventing Firefox for Android by tssva on Thursday June 27, 2019 @04:53PM (#20298619)
Mozilla also didn't have ad blocking when their contract was with Yahoo.