On HN, please make your substantive points without personal swipes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

So the guy tried to swim across Rio Grande, killed himself and his child in the process of doing so, and this somehow means that Trump government is fascist? Well, I guess that would make sense if he tried to swim to escape from the US, but seems like he actually was trying to get inside the "fascist" state. The kids in cages are also there because the parents tried very hard to get them inside the "fascist" state. Seems pretty irresponsible on their side, to put their children in the "fascists" hands, doesn't it?

No, the authoritarian (anti-media, judge filling, etc) and nationalistic (trade wars, rejecting international treaties, etc) policies do. The human stories are just the result of those policies.

Can you explain how the authoritarian and nationalistic policies make humans so eager to get here that try to swim across Rio Grande with their child tucked under the shirt?

It's not the policies, it's the long period of the USA being a high income and (relatively) low crime country in comparison to neighboring countries. Which I don't attribute to any individual president.

Please don't take HN threads further into partisan flamewar.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I'm not GP, but your straw man is just as disappointing.

- Nobody here is saying trump supporters are fascists.

- Nobody here is even saying that the_donald subreddit represents all of Trump supporters.

So why are you playing that card?

GP is talking about the effectiveness of the deplatforming of hate speech in context to a subreddit that has been reported as inciting violence. The same subreddit that supported the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally that resulted in a Neo-Nazi murdering Heather Heyer.

Whether or not you think that extends to all Trump supporters, and are disappointed by that, is your own inference. Don't attack GP because of it though.

>>Nobody here is even saying that the_donald subreddit represents all of Trump supporters. So why are you playing that card?

Because of the following comments: >>“On the contrary. Deplatforming fascism works[1]. This removes a small number of tools that they use to recruit. It is step in the right direction.”

I regret engaging in this discussion. I guess it’s time to give up on trying to understand each other’s point of view, because disagreement is currently seen as a personal attack on HN.

Literally the next comment (at the time I read this, by asdfgasd) literally begins with "Trump supporters are fascists". It's flagged and dead, but it's there (if you have showdead turned on).

asdfgasd is not the GP, who the commenter before me is propping up a straw man against and attacking. They commenter before me is the one talking about all of trump supporters being facist before asdfgasd even commented, so how is what you are saying relevant?

You said "Nobody here is saying trump supporters are fascists." I supplied a counterexample. That's how it's relevant.

Nobody was saying it until the person I responded to did. What you provided isn't a counterexample.