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Re:The Toyota Way by mbubb on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @04:56PM (#20289090)
> As I’ve heard it, Deming was having trouble getting people to listen to him

made me chuckle - its not like he did anything of value...

Deming has always been a reminder to think about counter tendencies. He might not have made sense to the Detroit execs in 1950-1975 but his relevance changed sharply after that.

Re:The Toyota Way by windexh8er on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @07:11PM (#20290244)
Deming didn't do "anything of value"? Considering Kaizen and the concept of continuous improvement in Japan is mostly attributed to him. The prime minister awarded him the Order of the Sacred Treasure and recognizes him for their post-war rebirth as an industrial power. Detroit did everything wrong at the time (see GM's disaster in automation at their Hamtramck facility [0]). Even when American execs were posed with a simple question of why their own employees didn't buy their product they didn't understand the disconnect between quality, reliability and the awareness of the buyer.

[0] https://www.leanblog.org/2016/06/gms-ceo-roger-smith-thought...

Re:The Toyota Way by TotempaaltJ on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @07:24PM (#20290337)
I think gp was being sarcastic...
Re:The Toyota Way by windexh8er on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @07:50PM (#20290501)
Probably, although I feel as though that perspective about Deming is, unfortunately, a reality for some.
Re:The Toyota Way by mbubb on Thursday June 27, 2019 @03:22PM (#20297668)
Not for me. I had an uncle who was a Mech Engineering professor and I learned about his role in WWII and postwar Japanese rebuilding.
Re:The Toyota Way by oblio on Thursday June 27, 2019 @09:10AM (#20294029)
> Even when American execs were posed with a simple question of why their own employees didn't buy their product they didn't understand the disconnect between quality, reliability and the awareness of the buyer.

That's hilarious. Do you have a source for it?

Re:The Toyota Way by mbubb on Thursday June 27, 2019 @03:20PM (#20297646)
yeah 100% joking Deming was an amazing human being. He was a key figure in WWII military supply logistics, too