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Re:What's Salesforce? by chance_state on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @06:01PM (#20279477)
Have you looked into Salesforce DX? (https://developer.salesforce.com/blogs/2018/02/getting-start...)

>- develop locally. - easily backup using source control. - contribute to or create open source projects easily.

It addresses all of these concerns nicely.

I'm also a full-time SF developer and am finding the transition to DX a bit rough, to be honest.

Re:What's Salesforce? by TbobbyZ on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @08:46PM (#20280862)
DX works great if you have a new project in a new org. But as a contractor, there are many times I have to work in orgs that are 4-5 years old that have been through tons of admins and devs. I can't exactly convert an old org instantly to a dx project. Plus, as a contractor I'm not generally paid to convert their meta data. They want new features or bug fixes. They don't give a flying duck if their org is dx or how their code is organized.
Re:What's Salesforce? by teh_klev on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @09:13PM (#20281009)
>But as a contractor, there are many times I have to work in orgs that are 4-5 years old

I'm a contractor as well. You know, there's a ton of legacy shite out there that isn't greenfield and you just need to get in there and guddle (Scottish word) about to earn the bucks. Sure I'd love to work all day long with .NET Core (or even .NET 4.7), but I also need to maintain a bunch of crap that dates back to 2006 and written in .NET 2.0. But as a contractor I kinda get on with it. It pays for my hobbies (model railways and building analogue synths, growing chillis and other stuff), so I kinda just suck it up because the rates are pretty ok.

And you know, there's no shame in being a maintenance dev, some of the best devs I've met are looking after ancient crap long after the overpaid, unsupervised "superheros" that dug those holes moved on to their next 1000% glory roles, and we have to mop up afterwards (for a tidy hourly rate).

Re:What's Salesforce? by chance_state on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @08:59PM (#20280926)
> They don't give a flying duck if their org is dx or how their code is organized.

I understand this 100%. I often end up using ForceCode (https://github.com/celador/ForceCode) for the get-in-get-out projects.

Re:What's Salesforce? by thrav on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @07:05PM (#20280128)
They're getting there, but it's still beta for a reason
Re:What's Salesforce? by sfa_aok on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @07:22PM (#20280285)
Salesforce DX has been generally available since October 2017: https://developer.salesforce.com/blogs/2017/10/salesforce-dx...
Re:What's Salesforce? by thrav on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @07:30PM (#20280339)
They made it to generally available to everyone, but still had a (*beta) tied to it for a while. Maybe that’s gone now, but it’s still missing a lot of essential features and they know it.