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Re:Facebook, Libra, and the Long Game by wan23 on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @01:24PM (#20276577)
> Banks don't make their money or derive their power through the 'creation of money'.

A bank just opened and has $0 in the vault You give the bank $1000 The bank lends me $800

Your current bank balance = $1000 My current bank balance = $800 Total money in the bank = $1800

You might say that the money wasn't created because they can't afford to pay out $1800, but if for some reason at this point they need to pay back the $1000 they can ask another bank for a loan, and point to the $800 they're owed as collateral. On top of that, both the $1000 and the $800 would be insured against the failure of the bank by the federal government. This is a simplified example of course, but when the banking system is working normally it's hard to say that they don't make their profits on the creation of money.

Re:Facebook, Libra, and the Long Game by godson_drafty on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @01:40PM (#20276753)
Not sure that's correct though. For banks, deposits are liabilities, while assets are loans and cash-on-hand, which they are required to hold fractionally against the total amount of their deposits. In this example, the bank is holding $200, has assets of $800, and liabilities of $1000. Adding it up, you have ($200 + $800) - $1000 == $0.
Re:Facebook, Libra, and the Long Game by projektfu on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @07:04AM (#20283768)
In reality the bank can take your $1,000 and write loans for $9,000 or more. It’ll have net assets of whatever capital was paid in plus loans minus deposits.
Re:Facebook, Libra, and the Long Game by pfortuny on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @02:18PM (#20277168)
This is why double accounting (?) was created. Too keep track of All the directions money flows. Your example is right, but only half-right (there are at the same time two debts to account for).
Re:Facebook, Libra, and the Long Game by magnamerc on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @02:48PM (#20277512)
There are now decentralized systems that have monetary policy baked in, where the system can't become under-collateralized, see MakerDAO.