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Re:The BS-Industrial Complex of Phony A.I. by zimpenfish on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @01:29AM (#20271433)
> Could be the reason why humans are so bad at adressing some problems like climate change, plastic pollution or poverty.

I think that basically comes down to greed and ignorance.

> There is no clear pattern we can match [...] leading us to a solution.

Except, as best I know, both the problem and solution were recognised in the 80s but it wasn't in the companies' interests to torpedo their profits at the time.

e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97...

Re:The BS-Industrial Complex of Phony A.I. by zubspace on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @02:40AM (#20271686)
It's astounding what mankind was able to achieve. Every invention is an ingenious marvel when you look at it in an isolated manner. But you could argue that each invention was based on previous attempts, combined, refined, either through complex analysis or through sheer luck.

Societal problems are a different beast. There are so many feedback loops, strategies and socioeconomic forces, that it's hard to find a clear cut solution even if you know the problem.

Stupid example: If you play Sim City, are you able to handle overpopulation, collapse of transportation and disasters? After a few games you definitely get better, recognize the patterns and handle accordingly.

So why doesn't it work in real life, climate change for example? Maybe the data is just too overwhelming, contradictory or incomplete? Maybe we just don't know any patterns which could help us? Or maybe we humans are simply not intelligent?

Re:The BS-Industrial Complex of Phony A.I. by zimpenfish on Tuesday June 25, 2019 @08:07AM (#20273364)
> After a few games you definitely get better, recognize the patterns and handle accordingly.

Because there's a benevolent dictator (you) who can impose societal solutions without contradictory structures (capitalism, etc.) getting in the way. If you were playing multiplayer Sim City with everyone's goal being "make their city the best", I guarantee that most games will end up with societal disasters being unhandled.

> So why doesn't it work in real life, climate change for example?

Capitalism.

> Maybe the data is just too overwhelming, contradictory or incomplete?

Nope, it's complete, non-contradictory, and perfectly clear. The only problem we have dealing with the climate crisis is that it will cost money and discomfort and, unless it's imposed from above, people generally aren't interested in worsening their lives to help distant others (cf tax rates, zoning laws, racism, ...)