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Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by oil25 on Sunday June 23, 2019 @01:00PM (#20256895)
We've been using a Big Berkey water filtration system for some years now and totally did away with plastic-bottled water. The arsenic/flouride filters are optional, but I think worth it. I recently commissioned a lab test for my drinking water and the filters appear to be very effective, although it may be the case that my city water is already high quality and arsenic-free (for now). Regardless, I feel the money spent on Berkey and its filters were worth it, even if just for my own psychological coddling.
Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by cornstalks on Sunday June 23, 2019 @01:29PM (#20257164)
> I recently commissioned a lab test for my drinking water and the filters appear to be very effective, although it may be the case that my city water is already high quality and arsenic-free (for now).

The wording makes it sound like you only tested your filtered water. Seems like you'd want to test both the pre-filtered and post-filtered water to really know if your filters are "very effective."

Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by oil25 on Sunday June 23, 2019 @01:34PM (#20257206)
I agree, but the test was pretty expensive (about $400) so I only opted to test the "filtered" output since that's what I end up drinking and cooking with. I would definitely like to do a comparison test in the future.
Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by skuhn on Sunday June 23, 2019 @01:46PM (#20257311)
Testing your unfiltered water as a control to your filter is a good idea, but also you're still bathing in that water.

$400 seems quite high. There are much cheaper tests available, such as the National Testing Labs City Check test ($126 + return shipping) at https://www.purewaterproducts.com/watercheck/

Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by nextos on Sunday June 23, 2019 @01:41PM (#20257261)
Be careful with Berkey. It's a pretty scammy brand, but this is not well known.

Essentially, Berkey was created to resell British Berkenfeld / Doulton filters in the US. They simply tweaked the brand name Berkenfeld into Berkey and began US distribution. Doulton has a rich history, and is a very legitimate brand. They invented ceramic filters in Victorian times. Berkenfeld was a German competitor that was transferred to British hands after WWI.

Once Berkey started selling well, they began sourcing some filter candles in China. These are no longer Berkenfeld / Doulton. They don't look similar.

Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by shortandsweet on Sunday June 23, 2019 @01:15PM (#20257031)
I also have a berkey, was gifted to me. They say it's a pretty good filter but I looked up the qualifications and it's not rated for a lot of the typical tests the government uses to qualify water to. I also don't see anywhere on berkeys end that they will support this testing.

In the mean time the only way I've been able to think of to reduce potential contaminated water is to vary my sources.

Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by perfunctory on Sunday June 23, 2019 @03:08PM (#20257996)
Is it really necessary to use filters, isn't tap water safe for drinking in the US?
Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by electricslpnsld on Sunday June 23, 2019 @05:07PM (#20258668)
Even in rich major cities (read: NYC), where the city itself does a reasonable job monitoring water quality and updating delivery systems, buildings will often have ancient decaying lead pipes for the last 'mile' of delivery to your unit. It was only a year ago that multiple Bay Area schools found massive amounts of lead coming out of water fountains [1]. Be cognizant of your water, especially if you have kids!

[1] https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2019/05/03/oakland-unified-lead...

Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by asark on Sunday June 23, 2019 @03:24PM (#20258098)
Filtered or bottled often tastes a lot better. Depends on where you live. Tap's noticeably worse than bottled or filtered where we live now, but not intolerably bad.

We used to live somewhere (in the US, to be clear) that, if you made iced tea with tap water, you could smell it as you brought it to your mouth. The water, I mean, not the tea. Smelled kinda sulfurous, and otherwise just off-putting. You could tell if a restaurant didn't filter their water because you could smell it in the cup, from a good foot away (luckily, most filtered it). This despite bathing and washing clothes in it and therefore probably being less sensitive to the odor than someone from out of town would be.

Needless to say it tasted terrible. We didn't even cook with that stuff. Cheap gallon jugs of filtered water for cooking.

Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by voldacar on Sunday June 23, 2019 @08:33PM (#20259626)
>if you made iced tea with tap water, you could smell it as you brought it to your mouth. The water, I mean, not the tea. Smelled kinda sulfurous, and otherwise just off-putting.

Well water I assume?

Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by asark on Sunday June 23, 2019 @09:05PM (#20259756)
It was municipal water. Whole town was that way. googles Looks like it came from the Ozark Aquifer. No clue what weirdness was happening to it in between, but it reliably drew a "sniff sniff WTF?" from visitors. Again, you could tell when a restaurant in the area was serving water straight from the tap in by smell, before the water reached your lips.
Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by ralph84 on Sunday June 23, 2019 @03:32PM (#20258152)
There’s a big gap between safe and palatable. Anyone who says just drink from the tap has never lived somewhere where the water source is very hard groundwater.
Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by ubercow13 on Sunday June 23, 2019 @05:13PM (#20258703)
London has hard water and it tastes nice.
Re:Arsenic in Some Bottled Water Brands at Unsafe Levels, Co... by zaroth on Sunday June 23, 2019 @08:54PM (#20259713)
Definitely not a matter of safety, just preference. The chlorine levels in my tap water are high enough to smell.

I used to RO my water with a 5 stage filter. Lately I bypass the last two stages and just do one stage of 5micron sediment and 2 stages of charcoal block.

Chlorine smell is gone, taste is great, and the filters in bulk cost $1.50 each for the sediment and $3.00 each for the charcoal. I change the sediment monthly (it gets quite discolored) and the charcoal every quarter. So $42/year in filters.

My wife had a pretty bad bottled water habit before I filtered, so it’s a huge cost saver. We fill water bottles several times a day for us and the kids, so probably ~1,000 gallons a year? Plus it also goes in the coffee machine, and for cooking.