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Re:A historian unpacks the origins of our plastic addiction by tjansen on Friday June 21, 2019 @07:19AM (#20241489)
According to this paper, glass bottles need to be recycled 20 times in order to reach the same CO2 footprint as a PET bottle (UK, assuming a 60% recycling rate for PET): https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257679872_Life_cycl...
Re:A historian unpacks the origins of our plastic addiction by xorfish on Friday June 21, 2019 @10:56AM (#20243016)
60% is pretty low for PET, Glass isn't recycled perfectly either, but is generally better than PET.

In Switzerland 82% of PET is recycled. (Note that this number is the percentage that is really reused. Not the percentage that is collected.) The same number for glass is 96%. That means only 44% of glass gets recycled 20 times.

However, this is for reuse, not recycling. Not many glass bottles get reused, most get recycled. Recycling glass is less energy efficient than reusing.

http://www.swissrecycling.ch/wissen/kennzahlen-und-quoten/

Re:A historian unpacks the origins of our plastic addiction by justin66 on Friday June 21, 2019 @09:13AM (#20242212)
> According to this paper, glass bottles need to be recycled 20 times in order to reach the same CO2 footprint as a PET bottle

This does not support the OP's case that "Glass is heavier and causes more CO2 emissions because of the increased energy use for transporting them."

There is going to be plenty of transport taking place during those 20 cycles of use and recycle. If the main energy cost of glass is in transport, as he asserted, that's only going to make it less competitive vs. plastic as the number of cycles increases.

Re:A historian unpacks the origins of our plastic addiction by olejorgenb on Friday June 21, 2019 @02:17PM (#20245021)
The quote is inaccurate. The paper talks about glass bottle _reuse_.

As long as transport + washing cost of glass bottles are less than production + transport cost of plastic bottles there will be some number of reuses that make glass the winner.

Re:A historian unpacks the origins of our plastic addiction by ttkari on Friday June 21, 2019 @07:59AM (#20241666)
60% recycling rate for PET bottles sounds very low compared to the 90% in Finland [1]. The deposit we have on plastic bottles ranges from 0.10€ to 0.40€ depending on the bottle size (the most common 0.5 ltr bottle has a deposit of 0.20€). Cans are recycled at an even higher rate of 95%.

[1] https://www.palpa.fi/beverage-container-recycling/deposit-re...