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Re:Getting 2FA Right in 2019 by mbesto on Thursday June 20, 2019 @04:56PM (#20237285)
> TOTP does not defend ordinary users against phishing

I never said it ultimately defends ordinary users, just that it reduces the chances because it requires a more sophisticated attack.

Re:Getting 2FA Right in 2019 by tptacek on Friday June 21, 2019 @11:46AM (#20243519)
You said attackers need to be "extremely sophisticated" to pull it off, and I've spent a year seeing nitwits – clumsy and trivially detected nitwits – do it without much trouble. You were wrong, and wrong in a way that's important to correct so people know that it's wrong.
Re:Getting 2FA Right in 2019 by mbesto on Wednesday June 26, 2019 @12:15AM (#20281858)
And I've seen the opposite, what's your point? How do you qualify "clumsy and trivially detected nitwits"?

PS - Telling people they are "wrong" isn't convincing, and is downright condescending. Thanks for that.