Obviously not in the Bay Area. People making six figures can't afford homes in the Bay Area.

But homes are cheaper almost everywhere else in the US.

...and that's the economy working, where you can be run out of the city because a rich person wants your house?

No, that's NIMBYist government regulation preventing the economy from working by building high density housing in a city that needs it.

YIMBY pro-developer stances like Weiner's SB-50 aren’t going to help working class families and individuals either. I am very pro-development but we need high allocations of affordable and social housing to make the development work for the existing community.

Yes?

Supply and demand is basically the fundamental law of economics.

No, it’s not. It’s the foundation of market economies, which are not the only way to distribute goods and services. There are many alternatives to this.

Like Venezuela, Cuba, and the Soviet Union? Those alternatives aren't better.

Look at singapore for an alternative that isn’t associated with anti-socialized scare tactics. Soviets had a lot of issues but lack of housing wasn’t one of them. Same for cuba, although the sanctions have crippled the economy to make quality housing difficult. I can’t speak for venezuela housing as i have not researched it, and it seems weird to clump a country with a mostly private economy in with self-proclaimed communist countries.

A somewhat ironic example given the subject at hand

https://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-management-news/201...

"House prices in Singapore are considered “seriously unaffordable”, with a median multiple of 4.6, which means that the median house price is 4.6 times the city-state’s median household income, according to an annual survey."

I was referring to the public housing, not the market housing. If you’re a citizen it’s not terribly difficult to get your own unit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_housing_in_Singapore

This is how you preserve existing communities--it should be harder to move into a city than to stay there.

Why should existing folks be given preferential access to urban job markets? No one born outside a city chose to be born there.

Because without community, what value do job markets have? Life is more than working until you die. Only the rich have the luxury of something more the way cities are headed. This is worth fighting for. If you don’t start with values, you have nothing.

Anyway it’s somewhat of a moot point because you can preserve communities and still build—just not with market-driven rents and landlord-owned cities. And not everyone can have what they want and live where they want. It’s worth it.

Location location location. Try looking around some city not well known for insane housing prices.

Try moving cities without a home or a job, looking to survive on the street.

The hard part about moving is leaving family, friends, and stuff behind. Once you are willing to do that a bus ticket across the US is cheap.

> The hard part about moving is leaving family, friends, and stuff behind

Tell that to the homeless, I dare you. It's certainly the attitude of a sheltered existence.

The homeless have problems mostly unrelated to minimum wage.

This claim is based on... what? Your wandering around the tenderloin and judging people?

Try visiting shelters, especially in the south bay. There are plenty of families without the problems you mentioned.

This attitude is intentional neglect of reality, and its prevalence is literally killing people.

California's problems are the result of years of zoning codes not allowing needed building. (prop 13 doesn't help either) This is simple supply and demand, when you don't allow supply to change (building more suburbs on the outskirts does not count - distance becomes a factor)

(Note, between the time I wrote the earlier comment and this I discovered new information on California's homeless situation - shelters near me the homeless are either mentally ill or victims of domestic violence - the first are forever a problem and the latter will be out in a couple weeks)

the bay is not lower end is it

Every market has a working class. You can’t just pretend supply and demand will provide labor with perfect elasticity. Part of why development is so difficult is the labor pool in the bay area is massively outstripped by demand for labor driving up costs and slowing down development.