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There's a difference between not wanting a racist or homophobe to use your service or be your friend, and forcibly re-educating them.

You have a right to be a moron. Everyone else has a right to dislike you.

> You have a right to be a moron. Everyone else has a right to dislike you.

For now. I could see a scenario in the not too distant future where "being a moron" is re-branded as "hate speech" which would be a federally punishable offense

You used the word "federally" so I assume you're talking about the United States, which has no federal laws against hate speech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_Stat...

...yet. Hence why I said "I could see a scenario in the not too distant future..."

Gay marriage required closely split court action (and it'd likely go the other way in the current SCOTUS). It's unclear if Federal law protects gay people from employment discrimination, being gay isn't a protected class, and you can be fired for it in a wide variety of states.

The idea that gay people and their allies hold all the power in American society simply doesn't fit the facts at all.

I'm interested in why you could see this. My understanding of the cultural leanings of the US is that something like this would be almost impossible to get passed as federal law, or as a constitutional amendment. Congress can't even agree on generic funding bills without a party war over immigration. The last couple congresses have spent most of their time doing everything possible to jam operations of the executive branch.

I just don't see a hate speech law ever passing in the USA, not without a dramatic change in the political climate, which I also don't see happening any time soon.

That's what you think. Why not go ask some social sciences or gender studies "professor". Yeah, they might not admit it outright, you might have to dig a bit.

I also like using strawmen as my examples. They make it easier to win the arguments I have with myself in the shower every morning.

Why did you put scare quotes around "professor?"

Going to jail or conversion therapy as ordered by a judge for the crime of being gay already has happened. The 'reeducation' camps already existed we just didn't call them that. Keep enjoying your imaginary future victimization though, I'm sure it'll make you super relatable to other oppressed people.

I didn't even say that I am a homophobe. I support gay marriage and everything. Just don't like the new politically correct social stance. See all the hate I get for posting this sub-thread and what I suggested in the first post readily seems plausible. People are going to vote for this s*t

It's easy and satisfying to play the victim, but to equate people experiencing criticism for hatred of gays to the rounding up of all members of a religion into reeducation camps seems pretty extremely disconnected.

>Ethnic minority

>Hateful bigot

One of the two of these is a conscious choice you have made in your life, one is not, and is instead something you are born and have no control over. Any guesses as to which is which and why those are different?

A bigot is raised into bigotry, though. Sometime's it's as much choice as one's religion: not that much.

I despite bigotry. It is irrational, hateful, stupid. At the same time, I think it's important to recognize the aspects of it that are a part of all of our psychologies, namely our cognitive biases. That might help us better develop strategies for defeating bigotry.

Bigotry is not necessarily a conscious choice. It is often a label placed on you by political opponents seeking to discredit or smear you.

You could just try not hating people.

Personal attacks are not ok here, regardless of how wrong another comment is. Would you mind reviewing the site guidelines?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sorry I didn't realize telling people not to hate others was against the rules. I do wonder why saying not to hate gets that but a comment about sending people to GULAGs doesn't.

I scolded that commenter upthread.

Those were crap comments, rightly downvoted and flagged, but another comment being crap doesn't entitle you to break the site guidelines.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sorry about that. I have deleted the comment or will as soon as I click submit on this message.

Evidently I can't do that or at least I don't see a delete link on this message. It won't happen again.

Or you go to GULAG

If you're playing devil's advocate, you should be more explicit. Otherwise it sounds like the hill you're dying on is one that represents the desire to openly express hatred of large groups of people based on broad categories.