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Re:$1B for 20,000 Bay Area homes by munificent on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @01:28PM (#20215698)
Also, in Seattle, it provides access to all of the other desireable aspects of living in a thriving metropolis:

- Good schools

- Lots of like-minded people to befriend

- Lots of places to eat, activities, venues, etc.

- Several higher and continuing education opportunities

- Good (well, better than almost all mid-sized cities, at least) public transit options

I definitely understand the appeal of living out in the country, but, for reasons I don't entirely understand, on many threads like this, people seem to completely overlook all of the myriad ways that living in a city is actually great.

It's not all grim concrete jungle hellscape. If I lived out in the sticks, I could afford a couple of acres and a +2,000 square foot home. But I couldn't afford a zoo, aquarium, bike trail, running path, music venue, movie theater, personal chef, playground, and coffee house to go with it.

The fundamental tenet of urban density is that by giving up some personal space, we all get access to a much greater variety of shared spaces.

Re:$1B for 20,000 Bay Area homes by jriot on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @01:39PM (#20215854)
When you live in a rural area none of these are needed, zoo, aquarium, bike trail, running path as they are provided naturally from the environment.
Re:$1B for 20,000 Bay Area homes by danans on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @02:22PM (#20216565)
> When you live in a rural area none of these are needed, zoo, aquarium

Perhaps if you live adjacent to a major national park or forest, or marine preserve, but most easily habitable rural areas are not that, and instead are industrially farmed or extracted from - essentially factories. Sure, there are exceptions, but not enough to accommodate the number of people that it would take to make a difference in cost of living in urban areas, not without ruining the access to wildlife viewing that makes those places unique in the first place.

> bike trail, running path

The environment doesn't provide either of these. They are created by many people either re-using the same route routinely, or by some institution building and maintaining them.

Re:$1B for 20,000 Bay Area homes by rawrmaan on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @02:00PM (#20216205)
Yep, just ignore half the things on the list.