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Re:Google Is Taking Charge of the RCS Rollout by Barrin92 on Monday June 17, 2019 @05:27PM (#20207549)
facebook doesn't store your (sent) whatsapp messages, and in contrast to sms they're by default encrypted.

"Your Messages. We do not retain your messages in the ordinary course of providing our Services to you. Once your messages (including your chats, photos, videos, voice messages, files, and share location information) are delivered, they are deleted from our servers. Your messages are stored on your own device. If a message cannot be delivered immediately (for example, if you are offline), we may keep it on our servers for up to 30 days as we try to deliver it."

https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/?eea=1#privacy-policy-informa...

Re:Google Is Taking Charge of the RCS Rollout by dimator on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @03:33AM (#20210468)
Except it's a matter of record that Zuckerberg is intent on undoing e2ee in whatsapp, and increasing ads[1]. you can't inject ads unless you're scanning the texts.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/whatsapp-fou...

Re:Google Is Taking Charge of the RCS Rollout by dx034 on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @04:18AM (#20210639)
You can provide ads based on metadata alone, no need for message contents.
Re:Google Is Taking Charge of the RCS Rollout by votepaunchy on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @06:33AM (#20211451)
Ads based on metadata reveal message contents (people, location, time, and potentially message summarization).
Re:Google Is Taking Charge of the RCS Rollout by entropea on Monday June 17, 2019 @06:34PM (#20208009)
Just like they weren't using your 2FA data to sell ads. At this point, it's best to assume that Facebook is watching at all times, even if they say they aren't. Does anyone propose anything really 'crazy out there' that Facebook does that actually doesn't eventually come true?

https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/27/yes-facebook-is-using-your...

Re:Google Is Taking Charge of the RCS Rollout by dbbk on Monday June 17, 2019 @06:37PM (#20208038)
I really don't think the average person cares if their texts are end-to-end encrypted, though. I'm not sure most people even know what that would mean.
Re:Google Is Taking Charge of the RCS Rollout by Barrin92 on Monday June 17, 2019 @11:03PM (#20209444)
I didn't assert tha the average person cares, just that the original claim about whatsapp is false.

And also: it doesn't matter whether end users care about encryption or not, it still benefits them, this is exactly why end-to-end encryption is a very good default.

Re:Google Is Taking Charge of the RCS Rollout by MBCook on Monday June 17, 2019 @08:11PM (#20208602)
I agree the average person doesn’t know what it is, but I bet they would care if they did.