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Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by jodrellblank on Monday June 17, 2019 @08:43AM (#20202306)
people vastly prefer touch screens

Do they?

A car's dashboard doesn't have to be small enough to fit in your pocket; it doesn't have a screen you want to look at constantly where there's a direct trade-off between screen space and physical keyboard space; a car's dashboard doesn't have limits of where buttons can be because you have to hold it around the edges without pressing the buttons accidentally.

I still hate typing with on-screen keyboards, I just grudgingly accept that for a given small phone size, I'd prefer more of it to be screen than keyboard. That doesn't at all mean I want my car to turn into an Android tablet because I prefer a touchscreen in the constraints of a pocket size device.

Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by bumby on Monday June 17, 2019 @09:09AM (#20202518)
If people really do vastly prefer touch screens, I would expect to see different control mechanisms moving in this direction (steering, shifting, etc.)

The fact that they aren't going this way in the systems that __really__ matter seems to indicate that people don't really prefer touch screens.

Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by autoexec on Monday June 17, 2019 @04:37PM (#20207094)
I was thinking the other day that there isn't really a good reason why I couldn't control my car with a PS4 controller. I wouldn't advocate for that as an industry wide change, but I'm willing to move beyond huge steering wheels and gear shifts
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by bumby on Monday June 17, 2019 @05:32PM (#20207593)
I think we take for granted that the modern car layout has always been the same way, but it's interesting to learn how it evolved. Some of the original designs were using tillers instead of steering wheels, for example.
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by rco8786 on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:05AM (#20203054)
Come on. My iPhone still has some tactile mechanisms also. But 99% of my interactions with it are via touch screen. That's what you're describing.
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by laughinghan on Monday June 17, 2019 @02:25PM (#20205946)
Yeah, and that sucks, but we live with it because that's the only way for it to fit in our pocket.

Why would we port one of the compromises of the smartphone interface over to our car interface?

And yes, I know, dynamic is a trump card. It still sucks. Have you ever read Bret Victor's rant on it? http://worrydream.com/ABriefRantOnTheFutureOfInteractionDesi...

Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by bumby on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:12AM (#20203124)
Sure, but that's the exception that proves the rule.

The actual point was that when it comes to safety/critical functions, we still prefer those mechanical mechanisms. Unless you're flying or driving with your iPhone, I think the point still stands.

I think the fact that safety critical fly-by-wire systems could operate without the mechanical interface yet designers choose to do so anyway underscores this point.

Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by rco8786 on Monday June 17, 2019 @10:25AM (#20203254)
Sure, safety and precision critical mechanisms are still served better by controls with tactile feedback. I happily recognize that.
Re:Mazda is purging touchscreens from its vehicles by dublin on Tuesday June 18, 2019 @07:11PM (#20219379)
I truly wish for a current phone designed even half as well as the Palm Pre and Treo were a decade ago. (Slide-out keyboard, "Just Type", non-sucking contacts and calendar, etc.) Really, I just want an updated Pre with a state-of-the-art browser and radios...