I'm disappointed as hell that a secularist wanker like Carl Benjamin successfully co-opted the movement for crass political purposes. But I'm also annoyed that if I tried to re-appropriate the same symbology for the optimistic, metaphysics-exploring group of pranksters that meme'd it to relevance, I'd get called a bigot for associating with the wrong people.

Any group is defined by its lowest common denominators, which is why I and so many people I respect try to seek out smaller subcultures. The trouble I'm seeing is that when a large group like the nationalist right wants to co-opt a smaller but more effective movement, the larger group's rivals refuse to acknowledge any distinction between the different subcomponents, even if those subcomponents disagree on everything that's objectionable about the larger group to begin with. It's bad for the interesting subcultures and it's bad tactics for the larger ones to unite rather than divide their opposition.

Now I'd best go take my own advice and send happy thoughts to those members of the globalist left who like to garden.

Now it's fascinating to see the alt-right and fascist-lite communities, fundametally authority-based philosophies, try to co-opt ideas like chaos and "meme magick".

On one hand, it seems what started as a joke/critique of fascist ideology steeped i heavy irony, has moved on while being picked up unironically. On the other hand, it's getting ever harder to tell the difference between genuine beliefs and those parodying them, once obvious satire has gotten boring, and the only way to get a rise is to make a more convincing charicature of the target.

This has gotten completely insane.

If anyone has followed the Tesla/TESLAQ saga, at one point people on Twitter were decorating their avatars with clowns, mocking Elon. Well it turns out, according to the crazy left, that clowns are symbols for Nazism. Did you know that? I didn't. Tesla fans were literally accusing Tesla doubters of being White Supremacists, because clowns.

Here's your problem. You're following immature overexcited crazies on twitter and trying to extrapolate to "the world at large".

>Well it turns out, according to the crazy left, that clowns are symbols for Nazism.

Context matters. Is the "ok hand" gesture a symbol of white supremacy? Plainly not. But when the Christchurch shooter flashed it in court to the cameras, was it then a symbol of white supremacy? Of course it was. Such nuance is lost on some people (or rather it is not lost, and they know full well what they're meaning but fall back on that lame excuse as a cowardly cover).

>Tesla fans

>Tesla doubters

What is this immature, playground-level shit?

The same arguments appear on these very forums. Of course, you're probably above it.

>Such nuance is lost on some people

Once again, the enlightened ones explaining it to us deplorables. I think the nuance is lost on you: the symbol has become an ironic joke for these people.

>What is this immature, playground-level shit?

Calling people fans and skeptics of a business is "playground-level shit"? Boy, life must be tough when you're intellectually superior to everyone around you.

I don't even know how to reply to you... You didn't address any of my points, and tried to paint my reply as claiming I'm superior to you.

>> Tesla doubters

> What is this immature, playground-level shit?

Twitter.

Note that the person doesn't even have to agree with the politics of National-Socialist Germany or anything close it.

Cause now the one attacked has the burden of proof, otherwise s/he'll forever be known as Nazi.

In a nutshell, that's it.