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Re:My Personal Journey from MIT to GPL by mhh__ on Friday June 14, 2019 @12:20PM (#20184207)
I worry that the downturn of GPL use will have consequences in the future. I understand why the GPL has its issues in context/s, but I don't see why it shouldn't be the default for open source where possible.

The political argument that gave birth to GNU/FSF seems to have lost it's bite in this day and age (perhaps due to a feeling that now open source is the de facto default, it will always be this way?)

Re:My Personal Journey from MIT to GPL by normalhuman on Friday June 14, 2019 @01:02PM (#20184534)
Open Source failed. It remains as something that is useful to build software, but its political aims were defeated.

The political goal was to give users absolute control over their computational environments. In reality, we have less and less control, because computations moved to the cloud (corporation-controlled servers) and the most used devices regressed to a non-hackable state (mobile gadgets).

Even if you use a Linux desktop with 100% open source software, you will still probably do a good part (and the most sensitive part) of your computations on someone else's computer, that you do not control. Open Source ended up making it easier for companies to build this new world, because it provided them with perhaps billions of man-hours of free effort.

The strategy of Open Source as a political movements made sense in the 1990s, but we need something new for 2019...

Re:My Personal Journey from MIT to GPL by icebraining on Friday June 14, 2019 @05:22PM (#20186772)
> The political goal was to give users absolute control over their computational environments

No, that was Free Software. Open Source was created as a reaction to that, with the goal of removing the ethical implications and making it "business friendly". And it succeeded, unfortunately.

See: "Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software"

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point....

Re:My Personal Journey from MIT to GPL by mhh__ on Friday June 14, 2019 @03:06PM (#20185766)
Arguably GPLv3 was a step in that direction
Re:My Personal Journey from MIT to GPL by anderspitman on Friday June 14, 2019 @02:55PM (#20185665)
That's an interesting take. Somewhat random question that came to my mind: Do you think it's more important for a user to be in control of their computation, or of their data, or are they equally important?
Re:My Personal Journey from MIT to GPL by nfoz on Friday June 14, 2019 @04:48PM (#20186561)
I'm not the parent, but IMO the end-user should be in control of the computation on a computer... and that concepts of "ownership" don't really apply to data. So when you say "their data", it is very unclear what that should mean.

I'm a copyright abolitionist, so I think when you write a book, you can only "own" that physical copy. When someone reads that book, the words in the sequence that they read them are now part of their memory and autonomy of thought. And so on.

Re:My Personal Journey from MIT to GPL by zelphirkalt on Friday June 14, 2019 @07:05PM (#20187377)
Actually I think free software is more important than ever, as many people don't get the difference and think open source is sufficient. What they do not get is, that there are no ethical values beyond literally an "open source" are implied with open source, while free software does pursue ethical values as well.

Since many are so uneducated about the difference, it is especially important to highlight this difference wherever one can.