Vox's founders are straight socialists. The class seems to be run by a left wing economist with the intent to show off left wing economics. It will be used under the guise of scientific data, but really just an excuse to push newer students in a predetermined direction.

You are mixing up socialism (nationalizing the means of production) with the social democratic philosophy (leaving the means of production private but shifting tax burden to the wealthy to provide more social programs to benefit the poor). The Vox founders are not socialists, despite what the kooky Mises Institute might tell you.

Go read Jacobin. They published a big article in Vox too where the whole point was to say that social democracy (eg Scandinavian countries) is not democratic socialism. They explicitly said that there is no difference between their socialism (and communism) except for the starting point: at the ballot box not a revolution. The point of that article (explicitly) was to say that the Scandinavian countries don't go far enough. They don't believe you can push capitalism to a point where it melts down anymore, but still believe in the same changes, but it needs to start in the political sphere.

Klein literally says "I'm a socialist" or "I write for a socialist magazine" (Jacobin). Yglesias is also part of that Jacobin group. They aren't social democracy supporters, but explicitly democratic socialists.

I'm pretty well read on my socialists and anarchists, because I used to be one (I worked in am opposition campaign against the democratic Berkeley mayor because she wasn't liberal enough when I was in college).

Sunkara (of Jacobin) is not a founder of Vox.

> Klein literally says "I'm a socialist" or "I write for a socialist magazine" (Jacobin).

If you're referring to https://m.facebook.com/ezraklein/posts/10156608843688410, he's quoting Meagan Day.

> Yglesias is also part of that Jacobin group.

In what way? He has never even written an article for Jacobin. The closest thing is a Jacobin article interviewing him and other pundits for some analysis of the Democratic primaries.

Never said sunkara was and iirc the article I'm referring to was written by Day, just pointing out those with jacobin are strict socialists, not some watered down social democrats.

The second quote was to that, not the first. He seems to quote it though as self descriptive.

Ive been reading yglesias and Klein since before dailykos started and they had a name.

And ygeslesias has beam interviewed by them, sat on panels with them, written in other places with those from jacobin and mother Jones. You can't seriously be claiming he isn't in that intellectual cohort. That rich.