Re:As Protesters Fill Hong Kong’s Streets, Businesses Are Al...
by e2le on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @01:54PM
(#20167397)
The UK should have given the people of Hong Kong full citizenship before handing control back to China. It's a disgrace that we allow China to mistreat the people of a former British territory.
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Re:As Protesters Fill Hong Kong’s Streets, Businesses Are Al...
by erentz on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @02:06PM
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The people of Hong Kong should have been just as entitled to self determination as any other people, and establishing full democracy and self governance would've been the ideal solution. But China apparently made it clear in the 60s that it would retake the territories with force if Britain tried to do that, so it was forced to remain a territory until handover.
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by usaar333 on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @02:33PM
(#20167812)
While some fault can be given to the UK for not pressing it harder, China was not willing to accept that (for ethnic Chinese; non-ethnic-Chinese weren't granted Chinese citizenship).
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_(Overseas)
Fun fact: China also blocked universal suffrage for HK pre-1997: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_development_in_Hong...
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by oarabbus_ on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @02:34PM
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> It's a disgrace that we allow China to mistreat the people of a former British territory.
Do you know how many people of former British (and French, and Dutch, and German) territories are mistreated? Why the faux outrage here?
Re:As Protesters Fill Hong Kong’s Streets, Businesses Are Al...
by e2le on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @03:03PM
(#20168143)
I'm not familiar with the case surrounding other British territories however this is one case that is still within recent living memory and not something that happened 80/100/200 years ago. Many of those within Hong Kong who were given BNO passports are still quite alive and wont be going anywhere for a long time. I also consider the people of Hong Kong to be more British than French/Dutch/German.
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by oarabbus_ on Thursday June 13, 2019 @01:31PM
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>I also consider the people of Hong Kong to be more British than French/Dutch/German.
It's a bit... gross that you only seem to care for people who are "more British"
Re:As Protesters Fill Hong Kong’s Streets, Businesses Are Al...
by e2le on Saturday June 15, 2019 @08:24PM
(#20193053)
Who said I only care for people who are more British? You seem to be reaching. You could apply the same logic to those who care more for their family than a stranger and justify calling them gross/selfish. It's quite silly.
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by mhkhung on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @03:03PM
(#20168133)
The husband and son of the 'chief executive' (ie Beijing puppet) have full UK citizenship (as well as the previous chef executive too).. The British should revoke all these government officials' citizenship (And their family) in fact.
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by chessturk on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @03:13PM
(#20168235)
The nation who allows future North Korean dictators to be educated at their schools? I doubt it.
Re:As Protesters Fill Hong Kong’s Streets, Businesses Are Al...
by mhkhung on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @03:04PM
(#20168156)
And giving full citizenship to HK people is really not what they wanted. The people there want independence, full-democracy, not an escape route.
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by e2le on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @03:12PM
(#20168229)
Agreed but China was never going to allow them to have independence so it only makes sense to give them an escape route if they so choose to use it.
Re:As Protesters Fill Hong Kong’s Streets, Businesses Are Al...
by julianlam on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @02:09PM
(#20167545)
To my knowledge, while this is not the case for all HK citizens, special considerations were given to professionals (at least, medical professionals), who wished to obtain UK citizenship.
It might not have been full citizenship, however.