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Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by stackola on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @08:40AM (#20163916)
I remember Al Gore saying we got 10 years in 2006.

In fact this type of rhetoric has been going on for centuries. [1]

[1] https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/08/the-ever-receding-cli...

Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by jefflombardjr on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @09:02AM (#20164088)
1. Al Gore didn't say this, James Anderson did. James Anderson is a "Harvard University professor of atmospheric chemistry best known for establishing that chlorofluorocarbons were damaging the Ozone Layer."

2. You're right about the rhetoric - it has been around for centuries but so have major ecological disasters. The Dust Bowl alone forced tens of thousands of poverty-stricken families to abandon their farms, unable to pay mortgages or grow crops, and losses reached $25 million per day by 1936 (equivalent to $450,000,000 in 2018).[0] I can hardly fathom the true cost of something that impacts the entire planet.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl

Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by WillPostForFood on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @09:26AM (#20164294)
Al Gore has made the claim multiple times:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ice-caps-melt-gore-2014/

e.g. in 2007:

Their latest modelling studies indicate northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers within just 5-6 years. Professor Wieslaw Maslowski told an American Geophysical Union meeting that previous projections had underestimated the processes now driving ice loss.

Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by stubish on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @10:02AM (#20164712)
Could, not would. Like smoking can kill you, not smoking will kill you. It is a common and fundamental English language pattern, clearly indicating doubt and should never be misinterpreted as certainty.
Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by WillPostForFood on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @12:15PM (#20166220)
Fair enough, but could is enough to play on people's fears. Immigrant X could be a terrorist. Food additive Y could cause cancer. You can't then claim you didn't say "would".

Note that things like tobacco cancer warnings use use can/could not will/would, and the intent of the message is still clear.

"SURGEON GENERAL WARNING: Cigar Smoking Can Cause Lung Cancer And Heart Disease."

"WARNING: This product can cause mouth cancer."

Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by alexandercrohde on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @08:45AM (#20163953)
That's the downside of boys crying wolf... when the actual wolf comes we don't listen.
Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by yogthos on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @09:50AM (#20164572)
Except nobody was crying wolf. If we took the problem seriously back then, we wouldn't be fucked now. The reality is that we're living through a mass extinction driven by climate change. Over 60% of animals have gone extinct since the 70s.

The fact that people are looking at the world today and asking where's the problem is beyond belief.

Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by weberc2 on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @10:04AM (#20164739)
It's not beyond belief; it's that it's happening so slowly that it's not perceived by the common person. And the "crying wolf" that people upthread were referring to was the "this will be irreversible in N years" specifically, not the broader threat of climate change generally.
Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by RyanDagg on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @10:17AM (#20164868)
"Over 60% of animals have gone extinct since the 70s" Citations?
Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by stackola on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @10:27AM (#20164985)
Might be referring to this [1], but it concludes population sizes have gone down 60%, which doesn't sound good either, but is still a different story.

[1] https://www.wwf.org.uk/updates/living-planet-report-2018

Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by jchanimal on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @09:33AM (#20164376)
We kinda had 10 years back in the 80s. Just saying.
Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by foolzcrow on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @08:53AM (#20164015)
They are an apocalyptic death cult. The end is nigh submit to the elite or forever perish. How is submitting to the 1% going to save earth? They used to say by the end of the century. Year after year their predictions fail and the cult marches on.
Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by AstralStorm on Thursday June 13, 2019 @03:38AM (#20172553)
Show us where these predictions fail or that's beneficial to elites who actually want status quo.
Re:We Have Four Years to Save Ourselves from Climate Change,... by oceanghost on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @09:47AM (#20164543)
No, no. You're the crazy one for thinking the world might not be ending. Remember?