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Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by colinbartlett on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:48PM (#20161321)
Instead of approving this merger, is there another way the government could encourage competition? Perhaps break up the larger carriers or some how promote new upstart competition?

Your statement sounds correct but I don’t exactly like the reality.

Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:53PM (#20161340)
Manage the cell tower infrastructure and spectrum themselves through a non profit GSE (government sponsored entity) (think ISO grid operators for electric grids) and make every commercial provider an MVNO stakeholder. Similar to a municipality owning the last mile fiber to the house, and any provider can provide you service with a quick patch cable or VLAN change at the central office/colo facility.

Running a nationwide cellular network is expensive and complicated AF. You have to provide a level playing field if you want to enable competition without needing hundreds of millions of dollars to start up.

Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by JoshTriplett on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @09:20AM (#20164236)
Competition between carriers has partly driven the widespread availability of coverage. Several carriers compete on the basis of their coverage. A government-funded entity seems highly unlikely to provide optimal coverage, or to do so in a cost-efficient manner.
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by rayiner on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @09:33AM (#20164381)
I'm not categorically against government-run solutions. But the cellular market isn't so obviously broken that a government-run system has any hope of being better. U.S. market concentration in cellular is less than for shipping, ecommerce, and soft drinks, and a lot less than for mobile operating systems, search, or social media. Verizon and AT&T's combined market share of about 68% is about the same as Apple and Samsung's combined share of the U.S. smart phone market.
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by clairity on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:52PM (#20161639)
with 4G finally getting fast enough (along with the low latency promises of 5G), i think we're almost at the point where what you propose might make sense.

before this, wireless tech/infrastructure just wasn't good enough, and needed continuing investment to improve. now that we're over the hump, a GSE can begin buying up the 4G infrastructure and leaving operations/service to the carriers.

since there are 4 national and some regional carriers, you could even divvy the duplicative infrastructure up between state and federal GSEs, much like state and federal highways. then you'd have some semblance of competition that would keep the infrastructure from just crumbling away from political/bureaucratic neglect.

Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by scarface74 on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:06PM (#20161396)
Breaking up the carriers would be worse for consumers. Every carrier now has some semblance of “nationwide” coverage.
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by iscrewyou on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:13PM (#20161443)
Break them up by region? With ability to use each other’s equipment? Idk, I’m shooting in the dark.
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by scarface74 on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:22PM (#20161501)
Yeah I know....

I guess you could enforce roaming agreements like they do in the EU(?) but then you still would have carriers having to negotiate with each other when one carrier has more external roaming traffic with the other - like Internet peering arrangements.

I don’t have a strong emotional opinion either way. Just trying to come up with pros and cons.

Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by notSupplied on Thursday June 13, 2019 @03:14AM (#20172464)
Breakup by region would not increase competition from the perspective of most consumers. They would have the same number of options.
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by theturtletalks on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:55PM (#20161346)
I don’t see how. Most of the small carriers piggyback off the big 4 networks anyways.
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by baroffoos on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:28PM (#20161537)
Government owned infrastructure that anyone can rent space on. That way there is minimal startup costs.
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by rhino369 on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @11:46PM (#20161617)
If we did that 30 years ago, we’d have really affordable GPRS systems. We can’t even upgrade bridges and dams.
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by mateo- on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @12:33AM (#20161796)
do...do we want GPRS?
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by jaredklewis on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @12:58AM (#20161890)
That's the parent's point. If the government owned the wireless infrastructure, that infrastructure would be in the same state as our dams and bridges (i.e. not good).
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by baroffoos on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @01:17AM (#20161965)
Obviously your government has to not be a disaster before this will work.
Re:States are looking to jam T-Mobile and Sprint’s proposed ... by rayiner on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @09:14AM (#20164182)
Fun fact: Maryland's transit agency recently moved to diesel technology for its next generation of commuter train locomotives. The railroads in this area were first electrified more than a century ago, and most of the last several generations of locomotives were electric. But the overhead catenary is in bad shape, and some lines have stops that haven't been electrified. Maryland apparently believes that, over the 20-30 year service life of these locomotives, the infrastructure is likely to deteriorate further (to 19th century levels), instead of improve, such that diesel is the smarter option.