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Re:Canada Plans to Ban Single-Use Plastics, Joining Growing ... by dr_dshiv on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @03:44PM (#20158871)
Save the rainforest is still my main environmental mantra, thanks 5th grade. And I still think the pursuit of biodiversity is the best goal. Way more compelling to the average person than co2. And it it turns out that co2 reduction is necessary to save those lemurs, so be it. But do it for the biodiversity -- to save the rainforest. Not nearly as compelling to save the rainforest in order to reduce co2, or whatever.
Re:Canada Plans to Ban Single-Use Plastics, Joining Growing ... by Mediterraneo10 on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @04:24PM (#20159195)
> And it it turns out that co2 reduction is necessary to save those lemurs, so be it.

The threat to lemur habitats is 1) Malagasy people practicing slash-and-burn agriculture, exacerbated by a very high birthrate on the island which means there is ever more need for new agricultural land to exploit, 2) Madagascar’s poor using charcoal for cooking because they cannot afford something like kerosene, and 3) rampant logging so that the exotic wood can be shipped to China for the furniture industry. It has nothing to do with the CO2 crisis.

Re:Canada Plans to Ban Single-Use Plastics, Joining Growing ... by zrobotics on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @04:50PM (#20159415)
I'm curious how CO2 reduction is less compelling? Not to be blunt, but as an average American I'll likely never see the rainforest in person. I find it quite a bit more compelling to mitigate global warming, as that will drastically impact where I currently live. Sure, you can't use cute animals as mascots, but surely the people who live near coastlines should find the possibility of their homes being literally underwater more compelling than an environment they will never see.
Re:Canada Plans to Ban Single-Use Plastics, Joining Growing ... by dr_dshiv on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @02:45AM (#20162316)
But they see rainforests and lemurs on TV. Two cute cuddly eyes. To empathize with. The equivalent for co2 might be disaster movies (or Al Gore), which arguably are counter productive.

The people living on coast lines are generally rich, which gives them the expectation that they will be ok.