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Re:I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful exc... by masklinn on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @09:54AM (#20155387)
> Over here (Finland, like all of Europe) we have roads, we have bike paths, and we have pedestrian pavements. E-scooters are always good for bike paths

Are you sure about that? Because it's not an EN15194 LEV, so whether it's considered a bike (allowed on bike paths) or a moped (not so) [edit: or are completely illegal as jdietrich reminds me] is a local / national concern.

For instance France just passed a law which will allow e-scooters on bike lanes with various limitations (and requirements, like a horn and both front and back lights). The law passed in February, and will take effect in September. E-scooters on bike paths is currently illegal there.

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Re:I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful exc... by jdietrich on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:28AM (#20155699)
This kind of e-scooter is illegal to use anywhere in the UK, because they don't comply with EN15194 - you can't use them on the road because they don't meet the standards for a motorcycle, nor can you use them on pavements or cycle lanes. The government has mooted creating new regulations to legalise e-scooters, but we're a bit preoccupied at the moment with, well, you know.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/09/electric-sco...

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Re:I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful exc... by masklinn on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:34AM (#20155762)
Indeed, thanks for reminding me, I completely forgot to note that in the initial listing despite my very example demonstrating this case: e-scooters are currently illegal in france (because as you say they comply with neither EN15194 nor motorcycle standards), they may be legal next september.
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Re:I rode all the e-scooters, and most of them are awful exc... by benjymo on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:42AM (#20155845)
Yes, in Germany e-scooters are legal to drive on bike paths and streets this week. You have to have insurance though, there is a max. speed of 20km/h and it needs lights and everything.

But if these scooters fit the requirements, they seem similar enough to bikes to allow them to drive on bike paths and streets.

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