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Re:Tech and Antitrust by bduerst on Monday June 10, 2019 @12:19PM (#20148132)
>Apple's walled garden's the only place a pro-consumer, pro-privacy stick has been successfully used against the broader software industry

Except that Apple has given the iCloud encryption keys of millions of Chinese users to the Chinese government [1], after forcing users to move their data to the Chinese data centers [2]. This gives the Chinese government access to Apple user photos, docs, messages, and other user data at rest, demonstrating that Apple is more for-profit than for-privacy.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587304/apple-icloud-chi...

[2] https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/02/24/apple-to-move-chi...

Re:Tech and Antitrust by oarsinsync on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @10:54AM (#20155955)
> demonstrating that Apple is more for-profit than for-privacy

In China. In the other 194 countries in the world, this isn't true.

Re:Tech and Antitrust by bduerst on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @05:51PM (#20159841)
Intentionally ignoring millions of Apple customers is a No-True-Scotsman.
Re:Tech and Antitrust by oarsinsync on Wednesday June 12, 2019 @02:29AM (#20162241)
Fair.

Do you have any suggestions for any alternatives that are better in regard to user privacy?

Re:Tech and Antitrust by zimpenfish on Monday June 10, 2019 @05:35PM (#20151113)
[1] says "the encryption keys are also stored in China, raising the possibility the Chinese government could gain access to it"; nothing even close to "Apple has given the iCloud encryption keys of millions of Chinese users to the Chinese government" (my emphasis).