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Re:‘I believed I didn't have the right kind of brain for sci... by watwut on Monday June 10, 2019 @06:41AM (#20145420)
No, I am saying that the stereotype he detected really exists and somehow happily coexist with other stereotypes. That the stereotypes when combined into one person become inconsistent.

Personally I knew plenty of boys that were not fuckups. I know also boys who are fuckups or went through periods where they as kids were troubles, but I know also plenty of perfectly fine boys.

Re:‘I believed I didn't have the right kind of brain for sci... by macspoofing on Monday June 10, 2019 @06:53AM (#20145474)
>I am saying that the stereotype he detected really exists and somehow happily coexist with other stereotypes.

Of course each of us has to deal with a plethora of cultural influences and pressures, but in this case you're just asserting things and maybe gaslighting a little. Someone shared an anecdote that counteracts your assertion and you go and post hoc fit your conclusion by claiming there are in fact other secret stereotypes that must be there as well. Maybe they aren't there.

>Personally I knew plenty of boys that were not fuckups.

So do I.

In my case, however, all the fuckups I know are boys. All of them. I don't know what that anecdote says, but it says something.

Re:‘I believed I didn't have the right kind of brain for sci... by watwut on Monday June 10, 2019 @09:52AM (#20146701)
OP wrote: "Strange, when I was a kid adults had the opposite attitude towards us. Boys were considered inherently mischievous, prone to cheating or making shortcuts, and always up to no good, while girls were considered rule-abiding, smart and hard-working."

Me posting first time: these stereotypes coexist.

You: You are opposing him and gasslighting. Also, he contradicted you.

Me now: wtf. Also, he could not contradict my assertion, because I joined only after him and made no assertion before.

Re:‘I believed I didn't have the right kind of brain for sci... by macspoofing on Monday June 10, 2019 @10:33AM (#20147057)
I understand what you were trying to say. Have you considered that maybe the other stereotypes did not coexist or were not influential? That's what I'm saying.
Re:‘I believed I didn't have the right kind of brain for sci... by ulisesrmzroche on Monday June 10, 2019 @01:20PM (#20148746)
It says something about tunnel-vission and horse blinders and so on.
Re:‘I believed I didn't have the right kind of brain for sci... by macspoofing on Monday June 10, 2019 @04:21PM (#20150423)
On my part? Yeah. Could be.
Re:‘I believed I didn't have the right kind of brain for sci... by ulisesrmzroche on Monday June 10, 2019 @06:11PM (#20151385)
So then? You see the mistake and keep the same view?
Re:‘I believed I didn't have the right kind of brain for sci... by macspoofing on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @07:31AM (#20154484)
It isn't really about holding or not holding any specific view. I shared my personal experience. I admit the possibility that all kinds of biases could be coloring my perspective. But it is what it is.