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Re:Blender Is Free Software by kingpinfreddy on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:07AM (#20138926)
Wtf
Re:Blender Is Free Software by benj111 on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:11AM (#20138951)
When you say free software, you have to clarify, 'free as in freedom, not as in beer', libre doesn't have that double meaning.
Re:Blender Is Free Software by klez on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:19AM (#20138991)
Libre doesn't have a meaning at all, in English, so you'll have to explain that as well. In other languages that I know there is no such problem because the two meanings of "free" are clearly disambiguated by two different words.
Re:Blender Is Free Software by ttsda on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:28AM (#20139045)
The point is: with 'free', people might think they know what it means (it doesn't cost any money), 'libre' is context-specific.
Re:Blender Is Free Software by chrisseaton on Sunday June 09, 2019 @10:48AM (#20139563)
In English 'libre' does mean free, but it means free as in 'free will'. It's not the same meaning as 'libre' in other languages. So it is confusing.

https://www.oed.com/viewdictionaryentry/Entry/107929

Re:Blender Is Free Software by benj111 on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:43AM (#20139131)
I don't have my OED to hand to check, I'd be surprised if it wasn't in there though. I had come across the word prior to my introduction to free software, I'd come across gratis also.
Re:Blender Is Free Software by klez on Sunday June 09, 2019 @10:02AM (#20139243)
Not that it disproves you, but the only reference I could find in the online version is "vers libre", meaning "free verse", of course. I don't have a paper version to check, and I'm not a native speaker, so I'll have to trust you on this one :)
Re:Blender Is Free Software by vimslayer on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:52AM (#20139176)
Offtopic, but I've been wondering where people are getting all this free beer from? Where I come from beer is quite expensive.
Re:Blender Is Free Software by chrisseaton on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:15AM (#20138973)
The problem is many people in the free software community enjoy confusing their audience and then take delight in pointing out their clever wordplay.

No reasonable person would decide that the best way to cut through a complicated overlap of a technical discussion a moral issue with many subtleties was with a pun, of all things.

Re:Blender Is Free Software by fredgrott on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:10AM (#20138947)
free and gratis difference but English has two versions of free ie free and gratis..Libre is gratis
Re:Blender Is Free Software by user5994461 on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:12AM (#20138957)
Are you sure? It's the opposite in latin.
Re:Blender Is Free Software by tapland on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:44AM (#20139140)
Gratis as in without any associated cost and fri (free) as in without restrictions is the usage in Swedish as well.
Re:Blender Is Free Software by Avamander on Sunday June 09, 2019 @10:36AM (#20139473)
Thankfully Estonian has the difference as well, without cost being "tasuta", with freedoms being "vaba".
Re:Blender Is Free Software by gnosek on Sunday June 09, 2019 @10:55AM (#20139601)
Polish has darmowe (as in beer) and wolne (as in freedom). Ironically, wolne also means slow.