Re:Blender Is Free Software
by kingpinfreddy on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:07AM
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Wtf
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When you say free software, you have to clarify, 'free as in freedom, not as in beer', libre doesn't have that double meaning.
Libre doesn't have a meaning at all, in English, so you'll have to explain that as well. In other languages that I know there is no such problem because the two meanings of "free" are clearly disambiguated by two different words.
The point is: with 'free', people might think they know what it means (it doesn't cost any money), 'libre' is context-specific.
Re:Blender Is Free Software
by chrisseaton on Sunday June 09, 2019 @10:48AM
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In English 'libre' does mean free, but it means free as in 'free will'. It's not the same meaning as 'libre' in other languages. So it is confusing.
I don't have my OED to hand to check, I'd be surprised if it wasn't in there though. I had come across the word prior to my introduction to free software, I'd come across gratis also.
Not that it disproves you, but the only reference I could find in the online version is "vers libre", meaning "free verse", of course. I don't have a paper version to check, and I'm not a native speaker, so I'll have to trust you on this one :)
Offtopic, but I've been wondering where people are getting all this free beer from? Where I come from beer is quite expensive.
Re:Blender Is Free Software
by chrisseaton on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:15AM
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The problem is many people in the free software community enjoy confusing their audience and then take delight in pointing out their clever wordplay.
No reasonable person would decide that the best way to cut through a complicated overlap of a technical discussion a moral issue with many subtleties was with a pun, of all things.
free and gratis difference but English has two versions of free ie free and gratis..Libre is gratis
Re:Blender Is Free Software
by user5994461 on Sunday June 09, 2019 @09:12AM
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Are you sure? It's the opposite in latin.
Gratis as in without any associated cost and fri (free) as in without restrictions is the usage in Swedish as well.
Thankfully Estonian has the difference as well, without cost being "tasuta", with freedoms being "vaba".