News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by pontifier on Saturday June 08, 2019 @11:38AM (#20132942)
I "run" a makerspace...

I put that in quotes because its barely running, and I've basically quit.

Wealth innequality is extreme. The people who can afford it buy their own 3D printer or laser, do. The people who can't afford them, can't afford to pay dues.

Everybody wants to donate their broken junk to the space, but nobody wants to give us cash to pay the rent.

Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by jadams5 on Saturday June 08, 2019 @07:08PM (#20135801)
I founded and am still heavily involved in a makerspace that's doing pretty well (8k sqft facility, 4 staff). Focusing on equipment doesn't work, you have to focus on community building. The only equipment that will draw people are the high ticket $20k+ tools, but you have to have the community first to be able to get those grants.

Seek out grants to start a scholarship fund to pay for people that can't afford memberships.

Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by sircastor on Saturday June 08, 2019 @04:48PM (#20135068)
I think a services/pay-for-use model is much more practical for maker spaces. Even people who can afford the tools don't necessarily want to buy it and have it sitting around. I'd it's available for a decent fee to use when you want, then it's a matter of scheduling.

To cover the people who can't afford it you offer opportunities to earn credit or options

Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by applecrazy on Saturday June 08, 2019 @12:14PM (#20133196)
I believe the easiest way to alleviate this issue is to pool together capital to buy machines that can’t be purchased by individuals. This encourages more affluent makers to join and pay dues.
Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by corysama on Saturday June 08, 2019 @12:31PM (#20133287)
That was the business plan of TechShop. It didn't work out in the long run.

In SF, the TechShop space is sort of reborn as https://theshop.build/ Also, https://www.noisebridge.net/ is still cranking along.

Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by kqr2 on Saturday June 08, 2019 @01:26PM (#20133694)
What makes noisebridge more successful? It seems like they have a smaller space and less machines than Techshop RIP but host a lot more meetups.
Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by detaro on Saturday June 08, 2019 @02:16PM (#20134063)
My impression is it's more a community like most hackerspaces, less "tools as a service" most commercial makerspaces are seen as, so people are more willing to volunteer time or resources.
Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by elihu on Saturday June 08, 2019 @06:21PM (#20135567)
Noisebridge is a non-profit, whereas Techshop was a for-profit corporation.
Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by corysama on Saturday June 08, 2019 @01:35PM (#20133759)
That would be my guess. Never actually been there, but I get the impression they keep costs very low. More of an old-skool club space than a modernized work space.
Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by jwr on Saturday June 08, 2019 @01:36PM (#20133765)
This is extremely difficult to achieve, when you actually put the numbers together. Machines are expensive and people do not like to spend money on memberships. You need a lot of paying members, and if you have a lot of members, you get problems with maintenance, abuse, and equipment wear, as well as all other kinds of support costs.

Source: I tried and decided I can't make it work.

Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by ytpete on Monday June 10, 2019 @03:02AM (#20144488)
On the other hand, gyms seem like such a similar model: the equipment is expensive, but not individually out of reach for most people who can afford to pay membership fees. And maintenance costs / wear and tear are quite high for gym equipment that's shared by many people.

Why does that model work so well for fitness equipment and not well at all for maker equipment?

Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by 1123581321 on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @01:02AM (#20153118)
I really like your question. I’d offer these differences:

- You get access to a wider variety of machines at a gym than you can afford or store in your home. Whereas you probably just need 1-2 3D printers and power/hand tools don’t take up much space. Also, even if a makerspace had a wide variety of machines, non-members couldn’t tell you what those would be or what they’d necessarily do with them, unlike a gym.

- Working out takes 30-60 minutes. Making something takes whole evenings; that’s a lot of time to spend out. Classes are shorter but have the problem where only novices and moderately interested people want to do them.

- Working out in a room with others is social and motivating. You’re surrounded by people who look like what you’re working toward, etc. Making things with others is also social, but fewer people are used to tapping into that as a motivation to create. And highly accomplished makers aren’t usually as attractive as people in peak fitness. :)

Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by marcinzm on Saturday June 08, 2019 @02:09PM (#20134007)
That assumes the more expensive machines provide enough value over their cheaper counterparts for those users to care. Keep in mind that industrial machines tend to be more complicated to use as well.
Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by hagy on Saturday June 08, 2019 @01:41PM (#20133813)
Why don't you use stuff more powerful than can be owned by individuals? I.e., stuff that's regulated. Then they'd have to come by your place.
Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by sigstoat on Saturday June 08, 2019 @10:46PM (#20136735)
what industrial/scientific equipment do you think has regulated ownership?
Re:Maker Faire halts operations and lays off all staff by AtHeartEngineer on Sunday June 09, 2019 @01:10AM (#20137244)
Lasers, and you can't get certain chemicals without s business