Sign In with Apple [video]

Re:Sign In with Apple [video] by mikeash on Friday June 07, 2019 @11:57PM (#20130535)

Right, there’s nothing the developers can do to avoid this. Because it’s the users making the choice. They choose to give Apple this power, or not. You are essentially arguing that they will choose incorrectly, and that developers should be able to force them to choose correctly because users won’t think it through. By a strange coincidence, the “correct” choice is also the one that allows developers to track and spam users.

Here’s a crazy idea: if you don’t want your users giving you a private forwarding address, give them some reason to trust you with their real one, instead of saying they’re idiots who don’t know what’s best for themselves.

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Re:Sign In with Apple [video] by thaumasiotes on Saturday June 08, 2019 @03:41AM (#20131154)

You're advocating for the users to make their choice at the worst possible time. There's no reason to give a new app special trust when you sign up with it.

But if you come to trust the app, and Apple excommunicates it, should you need to rely on Apple to help you reestablish your own contact with it? That won't work -- Apple already demonstrated that they don't like that app.

That's why makomk's complaint is

> there is no way for users to prove their accounts belong to them without Apple's co-operation

rather than "I should be able to get customer emails from Apple regardless of what the customers want".

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Re:Sign In with Apple [video] by mikeash on Saturday June 08, 2019 @07:37AM (#20131864)

You could always allow users to provide their real email address later on so they can establish ownership directly.

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