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Re:People with Greater Intellectual Humility Have Superior G... by 0815test on Friday June 07, 2019 @11:24AM (#20125480)
> and when that individual is not open to those factual shortcomings.

That's when you should play the part of being stubborn and close-minded yourself, if this is what it takes to ensure that your points are heard. Intellectual humility is the best case, but sometimes it is best to cut one's losses.

Re:People with Greater Intellectual Humility Have Superior G... by nordsieck on Friday June 07, 2019 @11:40AM (#20125652)
>> and when that individual is not open to those factual shortcomings.

> That's when you should play the part of being stubborn and close-minded yourself, if this is what it takes to ensure that your points are heard.

Do you honestly believe that this is an effective technique in spreading your ideas?

Re:People with Greater Intellectual Humility Have Superior G... by trickstra on Friday June 07, 2019 @03:05PM (#20127656)
While I cannot 100% agree with 0815test's statements (mainly because I don't see discussion as a win/lose battle, counting points, cutting losses...), there is in fact a certain motivation to take the stubborn position. When you look at the real world examples of people who successfully spread their ideas, unfortunately quite often there will be a certain degree of stubborness. It might be called different names - determination, believing in one's goals, but the effect is the same - at a certain point they will refuse to accept an alternative idea, even without any hard data. And by doing that, they might earn a social position that allows them to spread the ideas among many. Sometimes they even turn out to be right, sometimes not, but it was the aura of close-minded belief in themselves that brought them followers. Honestly, I'm a little disappointed that it works like this, because I would really prefer if deliberate polite factual discussion was always the norm.
Re:People with Greater Intellectual Humility Have Superior G... by dyarosla on Friday June 07, 2019 @01:12PM (#20126702)
I didn’t downvote you, but I also don’t agree with the methodology- it doesn’t seem conducive to progress.