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Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by elliekelly on Thursday June 06, 2019 @01:00PM (#20116461)
> Evergreen Public Schools in Washington state, for example, started using the company's service this school year. Between September and mid-March, the system flagged more than 9,000 incidents in the 26,000-student district. The overwhelming majority-84 percent-were for minor violations, such as profanity.

The fact that the system even monitors for profanity at all tells me its purpose has a lot more to do with student surveillance than it does with student safety.

Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by notathingreally on Thursday June 06, 2019 @01:28PM (#20116811)
That was exactly my thought. How does finding an assignment with the word "pussy" in it help anyone? (Plus if it's an assignment, wouldn't the teacher eventually see it? WTF?) I just don't get what parents and school administrators think they're achieving with this given the potential harm that can come from it. Were I a parent, I certainly wouldn't want some random person at the school to have access to everything my kid does online. Especially knowing how creepy some of the school administrators I dealt with growing up were!
Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by mieseratte on Thursday June 06, 2019 @05:29PM (#20119434)
Having had my 1A rights flagrantly violated by a petty administrator, I wholeheartedly agree. We need to worry about surveilling dysfunctional bureaucrats and their behavior, not students.
Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by TheOperator on Thursday June 06, 2019 @05:50PM (#20119587)
I don't nessecarily have an issue with surveillance systems as they act as force multipliers for all sorts of noble causes.

Surveillance systems should strictly be used for physical safety, anti-vandalism, and loss prevention purposes. You're not preparing kids to succeed by micromanaging them from behind a series of monitors. At all. People who intend to use the system to punish the kids for swearing by no means should be allowed access. The teachers and even the principal really shouldn't even have access to reduce the temptation to abuse the surveillance system. If they keep getting access the surveillance system should be thrown in the trash.

Bosses who use similar systems to keep their employees working can also expect nothing better than mediocrity and a widespread CYA mentality.

Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by astazangasta on Thursday June 06, 2019 @10:14PM (#20121094)
Every surveillance system will be used to persecute innocent people who the surveillers do not like. Moreover, it has long been argued that surveillance itself is a form of persecution. See Bentham, Foucault etc.
Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by zepto on Thursday June 06, 2019 @06:42PM (#20119944)
What noble causes do they currently act as force multipliers for?
Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by Gibbon1 on Thursday June 06, 2019 @09:35PM (#20120889)
Classification of people into a permanent class hierarchy.
Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by guelo on Thursday June 06, 2019 @09:22PM (#20120815)
Putting desperately poor people in jail.
Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by prepend on Friday June 07, 2019 @03:42AM (#20122455)
Overtime for local responder staff. Revenue for keyword based twitter searcherers.
Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by TheOperator on Tuesday June 11, 2019 @03:26AM (#20153565)
Protecting children's charities from thieves.
Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by throwaway66666 on Friday June 07, 2019 @12:54AM (#20121751)
You think these schools and teachers want to educate kids? These people want to just get their salary at the end of the month and eliminate all potential liabilities that could get them in trouble.

They would ban eye contact and speaking to each other, if it would bring them more peace of mind and job security. Kinda like dictators do...

Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by LordDragonfang on Saturday June 08, 2019 @04:57AM (#20131386)
There are lots and lots of good teachers that do want to educate kids. You don't go into teaching high school for the money.

The further you go up the administrative chain, the less true that statement becomes, however.

Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by closetohome on Thursday June 06, 2019 @06:52PM (#20119999)
As a Washingtonian I'd like to defensively point out that Evergreen School District is in the part of the state with all the idiots and measles.
Re:Schools Are Deploying Digital Surveillance Systems by dang on Thursday June 06, 2019 @07:39PM (#20120287)
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