News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Apple’s $1000 monitor stand is a massive and unnecessary ... by mcphage on Thursday June 06, 2019 @08:47AM (#20114000)
> What’s the point in mass-marketing it? It felt like watching a marketing video to buy an airplane or something.

It's because sites like this have been complaining for years that Apple has left the Pro market behind. This was their response to that. And now this site is switching to complaining that Apple's definition of "Pro" is too "Pro" for us.

Re:Apple’s $1000 monitor stand is a massive and unnecessary ... by wongarsu on Thursday June 06, 2019 @08:53AM (#20114037)
> switching to complaining that Apple's definition of "Pro" is too "Pro" for us.

If by too Pro you mean someone using an 8 core CPU with 32 GB of RAM ...

The higher end models might be great, with some genuine innovation in the GPU interface that to some will justify high prices. But I don't know who the target demographic for a $6k PC with those specs is supposed to be.

Re:Apple’s $1000 monitor stand is a massive and unnecessary ... by onebyteman on Thursday June 06, 2019 @08:58AM (#20114089)
It’s the rich people who can afford not thinking more than twice to make the purchase. If that excludes almost everyone, thats fine. Apple is making a statement that they are still the premium of the premium
Re:Apple’s $1000 monitor stand is a massive and unnecessary ... by save_ferris on Thursday June 06, 2019 @09:54AM (#20114564)
That may be, but their recent decision to no longer disclose per-unit sales for any of their products on earnings calls moving forward doesn't necessarily signal good times ahead. Their revenue for the last 2 quarters is down from the same period a year ago, and there doesn't appear to be anything on the horizon that's going to catapult their earnings back up. iPhone sales have been in decline for a few years now.

They're banking that the margins of these new, higher-end products offsets the sales lost by shrinking their market. The problem with this strategy is that it isn't very sustainable and leaves them vulnerable to losing market share.

Microsoft keeps getting more serious about Linux compatibility, and if they ship a surface pro or something similar that can seriously compete with the MBP, things will get interesting.

Re:Apple’s $1000 monitor stand is a massive and unnecessary ... by mamcx on Thursday June 06, 2019 @09:18AM (#20114245)
"Pro" is NOT a price.

Is features.

Apple was already "expensive" but somehow reachable. Now, the Mac line is more and more out of reach for anyone without deep pockets.

---

I could have understand (somehow, still out my reach for a machine >3000) if the Mac Pro was > 10 cores, >= 32 GB, >= 1TB SSD, Vega or Nvidia > 1080

ie: just buy and is already a top of the line (or, what you will do with a base (old) Mac Pro to get to middle config)

Re:Apple’s $1000 monitor stand is a massive and unnecessary ... by save_ferris on Thursday June 06, 2019 @09:01AM (#20114110)
I don’t agree with this.

Most tech professionals I know had lots of misgivings about Apple’s design decisions around the MBP. Mainly, shipping only with usb-c and the Touch Bar, which has been a total dud. Neither of those things were demanded by the market, but apple pushed them anyway. In the process of redesigning the MBP chassis, they introduced numerous design issues which plague them today. Apple baker in a bunch of incorrect assumptions that haven’t planned out for them. The incredibly high sales of refurbished pre-usb-c MBPs really drive this home.

The new Mac Pro, on the other hand, is very clearly designed for users that require massive parallelism and power in their work, which just aren’t most people. How many people need 20 cores? Most users weren’t complaining about the core count in 2016, they were complaining that Apple took a rock-solid product and introduced a bunch of regressions to it.

Re:Apple’s $1000 monitor stand is a massive and unnecessary ... by WalterSear on Thursday June 06, 2019 @11:01AM (#20115188)
It's not pro at all.

This is a homer car made of money.