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Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by Wowfunhappy on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @10:44PM (#20111141)
Apple could solve this problem by including python3 with macOS...
Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by Twisell on Wednesday June 05, 2019 @11:19PM (#20111280)
They sure could, but is it worthy to maintain an alternative package and deployment system for which you have no use yourself? Will employees be careful and committed to something useless for their jobs?

They previously deprecated Java runtime for similar reasons. And I can’t really blame them, roadmap is crystal clear now, they prefer to assign ressources to develop Swift/Swift UI and improve tooling for native code development.

Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by Wowfunhappy on Thursday June 06, 2019 @12:04AM (#20111483)
I agree overall, but I do think it's a little sad that you can no longer open a Terminal and start writing Python. I think this legitimately matters in terms of increasing overall tech and programming literacy.

Mind, there's still a command line and shell built-in, which I consider far more important.

Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by unilynx on Thursday June 06, 2019 @01:07AM (#20111750)
Its not like the rest of the terminal is friendly to newbies. An online ‘jsfiddle’ like environment suitable for newbies (with a bit of inline syntax hints without turning into a full IDE) would be more useful to get people to start playing with programming
Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by Wowfunhappy on Thursday June 06, 2019 @10:18AM (#20114778)
Separately from including python, I've always thought it would be nice if TextEdit had some built-in syntax highlighting, that activated automatically for the right file extensions.

I'm generally against bloating simple apps, but you'd never see this unless you opened a .py file (or .sh, .rb, etc), and if you open a .py file, you probably want syntax highlighting.

Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by jodrellblank on Thursday June 06, 2019 @02:16AM (#20112040)
You can open https://repl.it/languages/python3 and start writing Python.
Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by Godel_unicode on Thursday June 06, 2019 @02:43AM (#20112155)
with open("~/Documents/important.csv", "r") as f: f.read()

No? Oh well, I guess programming is hard, IT was right. Ok, back to excel...

Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by amasad on Thursday June 06, 2019 @03:06PM (#20117933)
You can just drag and drop the file on repl.it and it'll just work :)
Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by Godel_unicode on Friday June 07, 2019 @12:20AM (#20121640)
Gee, thanks. My point was about discoverability and being able to Google for "read csv with Python", not whether experienced programmers can hack things together.
Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by amasad on Friday June 07, 2019 @01:34AM (#20121909)
Majority of our users are hobbyists and novices
Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by IshKebab on Thursday June 06, 2019 @12:43AM (#20111654)
Presumably someone said that about python 2 back in the day and that turned out to be a pretty bad decision.
Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by Wowfunhappy on Thursday June 06, 2019 @04:42PM (#20118939)
Isn't this the same as saying, we should never include any software, lest it become outdated someday?
Re:macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including ... by c256 on Thursday June 06, 2019 @01:20AM (#20111814)
Apple could solve this problems by including homebrew with macOS...