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Re:Flying-V: Flying long distances energy-efficiently by baybal2 on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @04:43PM (#20099028)
I know how to make A380 profitable, but you may not like it...

Put 1000 economy class seats into it and fly NYC-London, or Tokyo-SF till it falls apart. I otherwise have no idea how in the world can it make money.

I seriously believe that second hand A380s will eventually see this fate.

Re:Flying-V: Flying long distances energy-efficiently by mynameisvlad on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @06:06PM (#20099721)
Economy class seats generally speaking will earn the least amount of money to an airline, so this idea would actually likely be the most unprofitable option.

To make it truly profitable, you convert the plane to First class, but then you'll need to fill all those seats.

Wendover Productions had a great video on this a few years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzB5xtGGsTc

Re:Flying-V: Flying long distances energy-efficiently by Max-q on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @07:28PM (#20100193)
Why, then, do the companies only offering one class (South West, Ryan Air) tend to make a profit, while the ones with multi class (KLM, Air France, American Airlines) tend to lose money?

That video is very wrong compared to real life. For the first: it assumes a full plane. My experience is that economy tends to be full, business has a lot of available seats. For the second: it does not account for the cost of running lounges, fast track security and other complimentary services offered to business and first class passengers.

Look at the companies. Filling the plane with economy passengers and offering low service level is what brings profitability.

Re:Flying-V: Flying long distances energy-efficiently by iamtheworstdev on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @08:25PM (#20100478)
I believe Southwest makes its money by catering to business persons that pay more for flexible scheduling and more direct flight options rather than paying more for amenities.
Re:Flying-V: Flying long distances energy-efficiently by leetcrew on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @10:09PM (#20100944)
iirc, southwest's seating policy allows them to turn planes around faster than airlines that assign seats.
Re:Flying-V: Flying long distances energy-efficiently by petre on Tuesday June 04, 2019 @04:58PM (#20099163)
You still have to fill it. It would probably be easier to fly 3 or 4 A321LR instead depending on demand.